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Hello people,
I just wanted to note that i have tried to do some work recently on this, my passion let's say. But i also want to make a rather negative remark here. Ever since i went public here in Holland that i made this software (somewhere march last year through facebook), my personal life on every level has gotten more difficult let's say. As you know i'm not an idiot and i also have understanding of psychology and now i realise well, i'm sorry to say, the dutch government together probably with forces who do not want this free software (you fill in the blanks) are just tormenting my life with psychological games (police intimidation, meddling with personal life with misinformation, not allowing personal development, which ofcourse leads to frustration and mental anguish, in part i guess to just make me unable to continue with this, and i have to say, ofcourse my personal life has priority so i now have to focus on that ofcourse, to try to better my personal situation as without that there's nothing). Ofcourse i will not ever give up my passion point. But alas, i had hoped some people around my livings surroundings would be of aid to me, but ofcourse you can't fight the powers that be so it seems i'm alone with this, and the only possible way for me is to try to pursue some legal battle which ofcourse also is torpeded by the powers that be here, but it's that or the end of SmartDVB it seems. I think i can by now write these things as i've been keeping this to myself for too long and i thought i might as well post here where my most loyal following seems to be. I said it on my facebook, for me the best thing to do i think right now is just to get out of this country and well find a normal calm place where i personally can thrive as i want to live and therefore also SmartDVB and other software i always wanted to make, but well. I guess that's life, you make something to try to better your life and the opposite happens (i read somewhere this is a catch-22, society tells you to be better as the others, people do that to be socially accepted, but when you actually are better at something, the reality is that people actually hate you, i seems this exactly has happened here now, and as i tell you worse, if any of you want to have more information on this i'll pm you)...
best regards,
Jack JavO
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hi jackjavo,
:o I can't believe what i´m reading ... what the hell is going on there >:(
please pm me
best regards,
SiLæncer
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Hello jackjavo,
i am sort of speechless. This is one of the more incredible stories I have heard of. What's wrong with offering a fine piece of software for free? You are not making money on it, you are not irritating anybody with it (I hope at least), and others have tried it before you with more or less success without being confronted with social harassment.
Keep us informed, I am sure you can find support here.
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Thanks for now. I pm'ed silencer with some more i have to say about this i'm sure he can inform the others as i don't like to think too much about this. And well, also realise i wanted smartdvb to be much more by now also, but i find myself more fighting mental battles with people here as being able to program and this has been going on for long (as i tell others, i dreaded saying these things in fear of people thinking i'm loco, ofcourse mental anguish also leads to that in longterm i'm sure these people know that, to me it's all about sumission and control sorry to say. And yes dada, i actually with now i was in a country where some of those other are and Free actually means something :)
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Hi jackjavo,
whatever happens to you, I feel sorry for that. Never thought that dutch officials would be so nasty and that for a piece of software that is not carrying any malware or capable of breaking into bank accounts. Silly world! I simply hope that you'll not catch a paranoia in these surroundings!
Regards
Ritchie (not a friend of facebook anyhow)
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Sounds very bad. Perhaps Sil can give us more information ...
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ok ...here is what i received:
For a long time i have known this actually, last year i even made 0.2.5 during what happened here, i just threaded saying anything for fear of people thinking i'm crazy (this is even how someone one gets ofcourse under mental let's say torture that's how i call it now). Well in short i just can summarize it like this i think, it's police together with psychiatrists playing mental submission games, as when you're a submissive person you can be controlled. And companies like (ofcourse i don't know this with evidence as such things are never told, but let's say i can also read people and think about conversations just like i can program) UPC and even Google (these names have indirectly been suggested, and i even talked to people who said they were from google who when you think of it were playing games and trying to get information from me). Also i'm sure my source code has been stolen last year, and who knows what more if companies like google etc are involved (google makes smarttv for example, which also has been in the picture let's say). I for example noticed last year when i still continued my work towards 0.2.5 that people around my living surroundings reacted to that and were suprised etc (while i didn't really understand that at that time). But now i realise it is much bigger and well i just can't ignore it governmental. UPC is the television cable company here (from which i actually have cable internet now and telephone, i won't say anything more). And these mental games are even played by neighbours around my building (i understand it now is some form of indirect talking which the police uses etc). It's rather sad ofcourse, but well television here and maybe else is also a control medium ofcourse, this is nothing strange or uknown, but i didn't realise they would go that far and actually halt development which would be for the good of the people (ofcourse not of the ones in control).
well this is just a short version of this, i could write much more. Somewhere it's interesting to know that understanding these things verbally i know realise also is comparable to programming (it's just analysing what people say to you). There's much more to tell and if you want to see my fb that's ok. I just hesitate to let people read that as things written there were in times of mental turmoil while i didn't really undertand it as i do now. Let's say it shortly then, don't think i have anything against and kind of form of people (but submission i now realise also leads to mental control and sexual submission ofcourse)..
oh and to add in case you didn't know. I feel i'm a dutchman as i went to school here and speak the language fluent, but i have parents from Uruguay who emigrated here when i was 3 yo (i just have a better sun-tan let's say:). Sadly i feel this also and thus totally unjustified discrimination in that sense (as i'm sure other so called foreigners here are treated the same) is also an issue here.
its ok to make this public ... i hope
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Hello jackjavo
your Smart is the best Free Soft!!!!
in my other forums I have mentioned that it is so, but I will make now own download-ling, that they try it can.!!!
Thank you for your work
yvmifi
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There is nothing wrong with SmartDVB, at all.
It's clean, it's for free, well done and working fine, and it's 100% legal.
And for sure, there's nothing better around.
So normally it should not be possible to blame the author for anything, in a civilized Western-European country.
Else there must be something really evil going on, in a way, all the media won't yet have noticed (or would ignore all together).
Something that would normally only happen in madmen ruled countries like Russia, China or maybe Iran...
However, remembering you have already told us almost the same quite some time ago, allow me to say, personal safety comes first.
So if you are under some kind of attack, protect yourself, which way ever.
Duck and cover, hide away, move, whatever might be helpful.
Also try to relax in between, as sometimes it's more helpful to simply try to ignore all the idiots than to fight ye ol' bloody windmills...
And if we can assist you in any way, please let us know.
Jürgen
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Thanks Jurgen,
Well the hide and cover is exactly what i've been doing last times, that's the reason even i think i can sit and think about this in a normal way and tell you all this in a coherent way. But still, this means no social life or personal development etc which ofcourse does not help work. And you're right i suggested these things before, but at that time i didn't want to duck and hide so still was forcing myself to further my personal development and wishes and thus still confronting myself with something i now realise is unbeatable, but i didn't really understand what was happening to me at that time, now i at least have somewhat of a better idea let's say. And i want to fight this but well, let's say my communication means don't cooperate (i call lawyers who never want to meet of just say evasive things etc). I ofcourse want to move away from here, i said that lots of times already to myself, but how can you when you're kind of cornered like a rat. So for now i actually took the hide and cover tactic which so far seems to work, but this doesn't mean it stops (i told myself like a zillion times it probably would stop, i lost faith in that now). And by moving i mean to another country preferrable where i also can thrive personally as ofcourse frustration and thus stress or depression leads to all kind of negative issues. And also in case people here don't know, i'm not a native dutchman (parents from Uruguay who emigrated here when i was 3 yo) but always felt as one, and we all know we have a very right-winged situation here in holland as of recent years, i'm afraid this also plays part here (as police refers to me even in such sense, all tactics to make one feel bad about oneself, thus submissive mentally, or even things as calling one boy etc in dutch, i have to say it's very demeaning).
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@ritschibie: well ofcourse these people know exactly what they are doing in terms of paranoia etc (ofcourse this is just even instinct like as animals are also, i think policemen even have said things like, watch out you don't end up at an insane asylum, which i'm sure would be their place and medicine of preference lol)...Thanks btw..
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I am still wondering.
OK, it's not a secret, the Dutch, formerly known as a very tolerant and social society, partly developed into some kind of post fascistic racist pack.
To be true, there may also be some conflicts with immigrants from their former colonies, which would not like to accept classic Dutch life style.
No wooden shoes, no camping trailers...
But even then, what's wrong with coming from Uruguay, in the eyes of the general kaeskopp?
And to be really true, a single person like you or me normally is not important enough, to keep all the system components busy on fighting us...
Part of my family came from Russia almost a century ago, running away from the revolution. Else most of them would have been killed, for reasons better not to be mentioned in public.
And my mother still half way looks like that...
In winter 1944 / 45 her family had to change location again, from a place, that belongs to Poland (again) now, to (Western) Germany, for the very same reasons.
However, they did whatever they could, to get integrated soon, successfully in the end.
Though, the family name still was a Russian one, up to my mother's marriage.
But even in post war Germany, we've never had any immigrant issues of any kind.
Well, my grandparents always talked German to their children, as they were supposed to live in Germany (wherever that was, at that time).
So my mother never learned Russian or Polish, her parents' native languages.
Nor did I, of course.
So nobody ever noticed, half of my family were immigrants.
My grandfather died many years ago, but I had never noticed even a trace of a Russian accent on him.
Means, when I grew up, in between all the survived Nazis and their offspring mainly, all this has never been an issue.
But income surely was, and as my grand parents had to leave everything for the Russians, and my grandmother died on the trail, together with her new born baby, then my grandfather's job did not exist over here these days, he and the surviving three children had to start again, from nothing but hard work and learning.
Same of course for the new generation, as the war interfered heavily with the most important years of their child hood and scholar education.
All of them learned to live with their traumata more or less, in the end.
So wherever the circumstances drive us to, we always have to try to adapt to the local situation and residents, and yes, at least partly get assimilated.
You can't change all of the others, so you have to find your way along with them, or move again, to find a more suitable place...
But wherever you came from, whatever you are or like to become, life may often be pretty hard for anybody, anywhere.
That's normal, but giving up surely is not!
Jürgen
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I'm also wondering, as as you say i thought the same as you, no single person would be important enough for such. And as i say, my parents made sure we were totally assimilated, i speak the language often more fluent as dutch themselves studied here and in essense had a normal life, but now i realise personally quite hidden. But if i try to assert myself as dutch people are themselves atm this is not accepted (which in essense is just being direct as dutch people are, i think assimilation does not mean one doesn't has the right to be and feel and also act the same). I have to add i live in a city called Almere which has the largest right-winged following let's say in the Netherlands so that may play part too in the way at least the locals treat or want to see me. I have been let's say observing these issues here for a long time, so as i say i atm don't believe it has to do with a single person but is something that maybe be even common and not even only related to foreigners in that sense, but just with interests and power and control.
I have to add the only reason smartdvb exists is because, having been totally assimilated here as you say, at some point in my life (after the cancer i contrated) decided to take control over my own life as otherwise i might already be dead. And therefore the only reason smartdvb exists now is exactly for not giving up. Otherwise it would probably be dead already. And giving in to control as i see it now to be honest is the same as giving up, and would also mean the end of smartdvb, so i see no choice there for now.
Let me add for example, i like to still go to dance at clubs sometimes (as i'm a good dancer with my south american origin let's say). And i've been negated entry there now here local as i observed these same elements there and started complaining about that (in my eyes simply asserting myself as dutch are), yes police etc at clubs i'm sure and there not for going out themselves (i can tell lots about this and what i think they're doing there but i'll leave that). And well for sure at those places they're not there for me only. And i have more examples of that so don't think i say this after some isolated incidents, but after just not being able to negate it for myself (which as i said before has been quite long i simply didn't want to talk publicly here etc about this maybe also as as you say i'm just assimilated why can't i have the same opportunities as lots of others here seem to be allowed, by making smartdvb and going public my logical thought was i would for sure get more opportunities, but in that sense i now feel i was to naive, as as i said before the opposite has happened)..
Oh and reading your story made me think. My parents are political refugees from Uru. They resisted the military regime there around the 70's (they were what was called back then tupamaros, let's say freedom fighters as they are seen now in Uruguay which has more of a left goverment there now even with lots of tuparamos as leaders i've heard, prime minister is even someone who knew my father back then in prison, where i was even born). About assimilation, i think it's well known, that let's say economic immigrants in general have more acceptance of assimilation in a sense that one might call placing oneself beneath the other, ofcourse if you're there for the money this might be a logical assumption. But political refugees in general don't have this mentality as they in essense just want to be treated as equals in mind. This i think also has been a problem in this country for my parents as it seems assimilation here actually is that, do it the way they tell you and not otherwise, if you have your own opinion as in their eyes a foreigner well that's simply not your place. How can you want someone to accept that, someone who grew up here, studied, and has capabilities often superseeding the other??. I have to say that's simply not how i can think, and if it were so then smartdvb probably would also not exist. But as i hinted above, i don´t think this is just a discrimination oriented issue.
JJ
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Dear JJ,
It is hard and maybe also fruitless to try to give any advice to anyone who is not living near you and whose experiences one is not able to share. So, I would tend to stick more to the advices that Jürgen cautiously submitted here. Anyhow, some comments from my side may be of some consideration to you. I'm a young at heart 60+ guy who made some experience in this life in different places of the globe.
That's the first time you told us that you went through cancer treatment. Clearly, this is a traumatic experience which needs a lot of personal courage to get through with and which also makes one much, much more sensible for all internal and external stimuli araound. So, "keeping it cool" is almost impossible for somebody with this kind of traumatic experience. Hence, please accept my compliments for your struggle against this killer agent by getting to work and fighting it with personal engagement and medical help. Clearly, you don't get crazy going through such an experience but I believe that your sensitivity for external influences gets significantly aroused by this fight (I've two cases of people who survived cancer in my friends circle and both have stated this process as being a "sensibilizing" one).
I myself went through many discriminatory experiences. It started when I came at the age of nine to Rome, Italy. As soon as I was able to speak a little bit italian and joined other coed's on the street I was greeted with a nice "Heil Hitler". You might immagine that this was not very comforting to me. One year later (speaking better italian by then ;)) I was fully accepted but I had to go through a not always easy assimilation process. Again, a smilar thing happened to me when I worked in East Africa. Whitees were not really accepted by the locals and (in my experience) targeted as easy "preys" when it came to prices. The climate for me was very hostile (though I always considered myself as being open-minded and cosmopolitan). So, as long as I was not in the expatriates circle (a boring surrounding to me) I had to adapt to local "rule" and was happy enough to find 3 or 4 locals with whom I could engage in "normal" social and sometimes even friendly relations. I thanked god for not having become a racist after this experience! In both cases I made the experiences with kind of an "immigrant" background. This does'nt help you, I know but maybe it is comforting to read about other's experience?
Finally, I have to state that even in nowadays Germany there are large layers of society who react unfriendly or at least very reserved to "non-typical" germans. Italians are still regarded as tricky, mafiosi and lazy though they speak generally (if they live here) fluently german and love german cars! You cannot win against stereotypes so better play with them by using your inborn charm (that's what I did in most cases when I was acting in adverse surroundings).
As I wrote, I cannot really share your experiences in Almere but I can tell you what I've experienced in these field. Btw. being negated entry to a Disco happened to me many times (when I was still visiting Discos ;)) for reasons which were a mistery to me at that time when on the other side I had free entrance to much more exclusive clubs in those same years.
But I understand that such environments are not helping to feel at home easily.
In the end I have no other advice than Jürgen gave. Remember that fighting to many windmills will spill your energy and surely be of no help for your battle against cancer. Rebellion is sweet but useless if it is consuming all of your energy!
Ritchie
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Ritschibie,
Thanks for the comments, but the cancer i had was long ago and i have fought that fight (about 9 years ago). I understand it's difficult as you mention if you don't see what i see. But as said this is simply a decision i made after hundreds of such observations let's say. I simply choose to believe what i observe and not what i'm told and as i said the mental battle after hodgkin is long fought (and even if not, i never experienced lots of support from the health care system there in terms of any psychological after treatment or anything alike, in actual fact for some years i did like my own personal after care treatment in terms of nutrition, sports, nature etc, matters which before that i never did, i think that really contributed to the fact that i now am alive and survived that, as i also had a rather complicated treatment with lots of chemo at those times). And the police confrontations i've had are simply there for anybody here to see, that's just not normal for a non criminal. Just today i was physically attacked by neighbours, shouting that i'm bothering people, the same thing the police says. It's the other way around, they are trying to intimidate me in all senses of the word. And as i told jurgen i don't even think this is only a discrimination issue to be honest.
but i'll stop for now,
JJ
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Well, perhaps the precise location also matters quite a lot.
Don't know anything about Almere.
But I've seen different places in Germany, and even inside of Hamburg.
For example, I've gone to school in a new built quarter of Lohbrügge, district Bergedorf.
Half of the inhabitants had come from other regions of Hamburg, that had been bombed flat in WW2.
Most of those were typical workers, normally pretty tolerant, modern, freedom and peace orientated.
Easy to get along with.
But just a few steps away, outside of the big new blocks, you will find a mixture of former Nazi activists and collaborators, many of those in half way high positions in those days and proceeding with their careers almost seamlessly.
For obvious reasons, those often had wages or pensions noticeably above average, and often they and their children were absolutely arrogant, intolerant and racists.
With a lot of money at hand, they could also easily dominate in various aspects, regarding social status related issues, like clothing and vehicles, club membership, studies, and finally all the well paid official jobs.
To be true, looking as a freak or punk or just poor - like wearing the wrong brand of jeans - did not really help a lot when I was young.
In the age of 18, I moved to a completely different quarter of Bergedorf, by pure coincidence. As a subtenant in a millionaires ghetto...
Never found any positive contacts there, but even noticed a new fascist movement evolving there.
Moved again quickly, into a classic workers quarter, already including a pretty high number of immigrants.
It was a really nice mixture, even if (or maybe because) not everyone was willing to get fully assimilated.
So a great part of individualism was considered normal there.
Had a really good time, never meant to leave.
One day the building was sold, and the new owners forced us out in the end.
This was the very moment, to find an even better place, for me.
So I went to St. Pauli / Sternschanze in 1987.
This happened a quarter of a century ago!
And it's still my favourite place to be, even if things are also changing over here.
Less working poor, less original inhabitants, but more students, media kids, and far to many yuppies of all kinds.
Most industry has moved out, in came the usual fashion stores, hotels and bars, internet related business, and another bunch of immigrants and refugees.
But this still is a pretty well working mixture, as no single group can dominate the others.
So this is exactly the place, where I want to stay and grow old.
Just some 20 km away from where I could never really feel at home and safe...
BTW, for this weekend the local police has requested extra rights, as a very special event is announced, that was being followed by hooligan style action every year.
So I may have to allow them, to have my identity checked and perhaps even open the bags on my bike, to reach home.
But as I am not looking like a punk or anarchist (any more), I should not be running into trouble then.
Perhaps you may as well find a better place, even if not moving to far away.
Jürgen
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well, as rb noted correct i needed some years to get rid of the angst let's say after such illness (ofcourse i would say at those years i avoided even social surroundings out of fear of catching an illness with a battered body). Before that i also lived here and in my recollection it was not as tough as now (to me at those social events it looks as if they just don't want you go get to the women, which also just is logic to me if you consider the current state here i mentioned, but well). After that i started on SmartDVB as my youth wish at about 20 man was that, sounds logical to me that after such illness one would choose to pursue ones dreams as there might not be other opportunities. And ofcourse at that moment i didn't know how it would turn out.
Do you suggest i move somewhere at germany? My spoken ger would not be sufficient atm :)
I lived her as told all my life, and as you mention in the past tolerant was the middle name at the Netherlands, but that has long been forgotten it looks. My personal thought is that is looked better or at least more tolerant in the past (which if one considers the current politics also sounds normal, but still i have to life here and if i cannot thrive as a person as my wishes are SmartDVB also cannot). As i told i'm now more occupied with this stuff as programming, which is certainly not my desire). And ofcourse people don't like men who complain, but again there i wonder, this is even a typical dutch form to be, so once more there i wonder why i cannot be allowed the same rights).
Now people here are starting to call me an extremist (yesterday), just for my opinion on this sometimes this just looks like a world turned around to me, ofcourse it could be as you say and jobs might be given at those forms, which sounds logical to me too.
I won't use too many harsher words here that sometimes pop up, i still have to live here for now. I don't know how it will turn out here and if i will be allowed to move even given the current state, in worst case scenario i might need to find a lawyer, maybe even an international one who knows, but my funding is limited but who knows. And if so some assistence in a personal encounter at my location by anyone willing to assist here would be very appreciated.
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Do you suggest i move somewhere at germany?
Not really, as this: My spoken ger would not be sufficient atm
... could lead you into even more trouble over here.
One reason, there is quite a lot of professional thieves from Southern America around in several regions of Germany.
So people often are distrusting immigrants from there by default, once they behave or just look like Indios, either physically or by dress code.
Occasionally also policemen would, mainly at times, when street musicians / beggars from over there are around, as some of that groups seem to be related with professional pickpocketing.
This is not my idea, but comes from highly reliable professional sources inside of my family.
However, I liked to suggest to look around your place and perhaps one day find just another part of town or similar, that might have a different life style and atmosphere.
Like I did move around in Hamburg, to find a better place for me.
Last time, and also some times before, I did not even need a van to move, as distances were very low, and I could use my bike with big bags and trailer.
Just a few steps around the corner, or some blocks down the road, or in case a few miles away, but then finding the new surrounding, people and feeling to be totally different ...
BTW, if you wanted to find ten bucks on the road, don't waste your time to daily check all the streets and places.
Won't work, specially if you were really in need for it.
Blame Murphy's law for this.
Instead forget about that completely, and then one day you may find yourself stepping directly onto it, when least expecting this.
Same goes for girls...
Try to think positive
Jürgen
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Yes, but the problem with moving local is that last months i have had at least 7 incidents where i was attacked physically or provoced with physical intimidation (also at normal shops, like local supermarkts etc) where they call the police or i have to call them (about 3 times they physically first hit me and then they call the police saying i actually attacked them you see). And then the police runs to me and starts their in my eyes intimidation games. I now am sure these so called normal citizens are at least as you would call it callaborators if not more you see, as for sure this are just setups with all involved? So if the police is so involved in this how in the hell will i find peace of mind elsewhere in this town, maybe at least with the local surrounding, there you're right, but still i would prefer another town at least if given the chance by these loco's.
And well, by using the duck and hide tactic i in actual fact had to as you mention just forget about it for now, as as you mention i realised forcing myself into those situations was like a monkey hitting the same stone time and time again. But ofcourse this don't aid personal happyness, if you're not even allowed to be yourself or simply talk about what you want at shops.
And well i might not look european ofcourse, but uru's are mainly immigrants from europe long time ago (portuguese, italians, spanish etc, and the real indians at those places at those times were killed pretty quick as would be normal for portuguese and alike european mentality at that time, my real name also indicates that, kind of portuguese i think and my mothers maiden name is even italian i'm sure).
And well people here might find my complaints here trivial but try to show compassion, as my only real passion as i said before is smartdvb, and having to be busy with these issues here is certainly not my choice but an unwanted necessity which makes me have to put smartdvb on a lower priority atm (and thus also even the last years for sure), as i said before, all the options mentioned on my smartdvb.net website i wanted to have made by now and most probably could have (like osd, pip, multiple devices, modules etc). But well.
And yes others here have mentioned the power of positive thinking, so i try, and for now that's all i have :-)
JJ