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Titel: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 09 Mai, 2011, 16:45

Jau ...rennt wie nichts gutes  :jo...so macht DVB Spass   ;Beifall

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 09 Mai, 2011, 21:40

SiLæncer

wo lädt er eigentlich die Settings hin.
ich musste erst die alte beta3 deinstallieren, dann neu installieren und dann waren da auch schon#
meine Favoriten drin.nur die Codecs musste ich neu bestimmen.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 09 Mai, 2011, 22:05

Findet sich eigentlich alles in -> \SmartDVB\Settings\settings.ini

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: moonchild am 10 Mai, 2011, 18:36

Hat hier jemand die neue Beta unter xp am laufen? Avc/h264 geht ohne Probleme?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 10 Mai, 2011, 18:51

Nee..bisher nicht (Hab hier bisher nur unter Win 7 Sp1 x64 getestet..aber da rennt die Beta einwandfrei soweit ...).hab hier zwar noch nen XP Sp3 auf ner anderen Partition ...aber das nutze ich schon seit längerer Zeit so gut wie nicht mehr ...höchstens mal als ´fallback´ System oder so ...

Wenns nicht all zu sehr eilt ...könnte ich  morgen auch mal unter Xp testen ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: moonchild am 10 Mai, 2011, 20:09

unter win7 geht es hier auch wunderbar ;) Aber auf meinem mt htpc System mit xp habe ich leider Probleme mit 720p/1080i Sendern.
Mit einem alten coreavc filter geht es an sich, aber pdvd9 filter (mit oder ohne dxva) verursachen nach einigen Seconden Stottern end framedrops. Wäre toll wen du in de nächsten Tagen mal unter xp testen köntest, dann brauche ich Jack nicht weiter zu belästigen ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 10 Mai, 2011, 20:12

Ja ...kein Problem ...morgen Nachmittag werde ich dazu sicherlich was schreiben können ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 10 Mai, 2011, 22:42

Bei mir unter XP ist HD mit pdvd9  nicht möglich: stottern und Ton asyncron
mit divx-h264 und AC3 läuft es Top

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 11 Mai, 2011, 14:16

Jo...mit PDVD 9 hier auch das gleiche Ergebnis unter XP...aber mit z.B. PDVD 10 ist alles fein hier ...

Den AC3 Filter Codec verwende ich eh überall....gibt nix besseres ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: naini am 11 Mai, 2011, 20:06

vom feinsten.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 11 Mai, 2011, 20:19

Jo ;) ...fehlt nur noch ne PiP Funktion und ein vollständiger Support von mehr als einer DVB-Karte (mit der Beta 4 kann man zwar mehrere Karten betreiben ...aber halt nicht simultan)...so das man auch mit einer recorden ...und der anderen schauen kann ... ;D

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: moonchild am 11 Mai, 2011, 21:49

yvmifi und SiLæncer, danke für den Test unter xp! Jack kann zur Zeit xp  nur unter Vmware testen, mal gucken was er zu den Resultaten sagt.

Sehe gerade das die bei Cyberlink schon bei pdvd11 sind, mmh wie die Zeit vergeht ;)

Übrigens sucht Jack noch kreative Grafiker, die sich mit dem OSD/GUI Design beschäftigen wollen......

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 12 Mai, 2011, 22:34

hab heute mit PDVD11 getestet läuf wie ein Bienchen
mit PDVD10 hatte ich Probleme.
yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 13 Mai, 2011, 07:35

Hallo. Hab mich endlich mal hier registriert :). Moonchild, ich dachte das die cyberlink9 codecs unter xp nur nicht mit die multi-monitor function functionierten, habe das falsch begriffen, ich erinnere mich das fur diese codecs die avc1 option gebraucht werden musste sonst gab es probleme wie hier beschrieben, vielleicht das es da ein problem gibt, ich werde schauen. Danke fur den tests...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 13 Mai, 2011, 10:53

Hi jackjavo , willkommen im DVB-Cube :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 13 Mai, 2011, 18:56

Was mir noch so aufgefallen ist ...beim Wechsel zwischen den verschiedenen Modi (Main Window, Fullscreen, Floating Window) ...passierts immer mal wieder das die Aktion in einem schwarzen TV Bild endet ...so das man den Sender neu tunen muss ...damit wieder was zu sehen ist ...

Genutzter Codec und Renderer scheinen da nicht wirklich eine Rolle zu spielen ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: berti am 13 Mai, 2011, 21:04

stimmt, und häufig bei aktivierten Aero-theme (w7/w8 x64). Bei abgeschalteten Aero passiert das seltener.



Ähh: wohin mit Bug-Meldungen ?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 13 Mai, 2011, 21:08

SiLæncer

ist bei mir auch so ,aber mit Video renderer vmr7 ist es nicht mehr.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 14 Mai, 2011, 08:57

danke. Ich hab das auch manchmal aber nur in combination mit multi-monitor, also beim bild wechsel, passiert es bei euch auf dasselbe schirm? Intern probiere ich zu detectieren wenn ein bildschirm veranderung auftret, denke das da noch etwas schief gehen kann. Zum beispiel wenn mann die main-window verschiebt nach ein anderes schirm und dan fullscreen/floating geht...
bug-meldungen konnen am besten im smartdvb forum, aber ich werde hier auch rumschauen oder dvbn kann auch. Ich gebrauche auch kein aero oder sowass..
Entschuldigung fur mein geschriebenes deutch, es ist sicher 24 jahre oder etwas seit ich es geschrieben habe auf der schule lol

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 14 Mai, 2011, 09:54

Zitat

Ich hab das auch manchmal aber nur in combination mit multi-monitor, also beim bild wechsel, passiert es bei euch auf dasselbe schirm?

Ja ...ich habe das sowohl im Multimonitorbetrieb als auch auf nur einem Bildschirm ...allerdings häufiger bei Multimonitorbetrieb.

Zitat

Entschuldigung fur mein geschriebenes deutch, es ist sicher 24 jahre oder etwas seit ich es geschrieben habe auf der schule lol

Ist schon ok ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 14 Mai, 2011, 21:42

fur ne gute wirkung der cyberlink 9 codecs unter xp muss die avc1 option beim 'add codec' dialog gebraucht werden, hab mit moonchild hieruber communiciert. Unter win7 laufen die alteren cyberlink codecs (vor 10) bei mir aun jedan fall nicht (bei euch auch?)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 14 Mai, 2011, 22:13

Zitat von: jackjavo am 14 Mai, 2011, 21:42

fur ne gute wirkung der cyberlink 9 codecs unter xp muss die avc1 option beim 'add codec' dialog gebraucht werden.Unter win7 laufen die alteren cyberlink codecs (vor 10) bei mir aun jedan fall nicht (bei euch auch?)..

werde ich mir morgen mal genauer anschauen ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 15 Mai, 2011, 08:04

Also gehen tun die schon für H.264...aber ohne die ´avc1´ Option hinzugefügt fängt das Bild nach einigen Sekunden zu ruckeln an ...mit PDVD 8 & 9 ... speziell bei 1080i ...bei 720p gibts da kaum Probleme ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: dada am 15 Mai, 2011, 12:54

Bei mir dauert das Umschalten zu und zwischen S2/ 8PSK HD Sendern so um die 7 Sekunden, unabhängig von den verwendeten Codecs und Renderern. Einsvestival HD (DVB-S/QPSK) ist genauso schnell wir die SD Sender. Ist das bei euch auch so?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 15 Mai, 2011, 12:56

Nö...umschalten geht bei mir ´Ratz Fatz´...unter 1 Sekunde...egal ob S2/ 8PSK HD Sender oder DVB-S ...

Bei S2/ 8PSK dauerts zugegeben nen Tick länger...als bei DVB-S Sendern ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: dada am 15 Mai, 2011, 13:48

Ok, hab das Problem gefunden. "do not rebuild graph on channel change" fehlte ein Häckchen. Jetzt geht alles unter einer Sekunde :)

edit: dafür geht jetzt beim Wechsel von Kanälen zwischen den Normen nichts mehr :(

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 Mai, 2011, 16:22

@dada: mit zwischen den normen meinst du zwischen qpsk und 8psk? Da wird immer der graph aufneu gebaut also solte nicht fehlen? Welche karte/os/codecs gebrauchst du? Die 'do not rebuild grph on channel change' ist nicht mit aller codecs stabil im besondere mit evr unter win7 bei mir..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: dada am 15 Mai, 2011, 17:28

Karte Tevii S650 USB, OS W7, Codec PDVD11 oder CoreAVC 2.5., VMR9. Checked sind "send diseqC on each transponder change", "always retune" (was aber keinen Unterschied macht) und "do not rebuild...". Unter diesen Bedingungen dauert ein Wechsel von qpsk nach 8psk 7-12 Sekunden, von 8psk nach qpsk 0.7 Sekunden. Bei 8psk innerhalb eines Transponders (zB Arte, ZDF) nur 0.1 Sekunde. Es sieht so aus. als sei der Tranponderwechsel bei 8psk Modulation der Grund für die Verzögerung. Transponderwechsel bei qpsk ist immer schnell.

Edit: noch etwas, wenn ich eine S2-3200 verwende besteht das Problem nicht, alles sehr schnell. Allerdings ist diese Karte direkt an einen Multiswitch angeschlossen und nicht wie die Tevii an einem uncommitted switch.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 Mai, 2011, 17:58

ich denk nicht das es durch die gebrauchten codecs kommt, gebrauche dieselbe unter win7. Es muss denke ich beim aufbau der h264 graph liegen. Bei mir dauert es beim h264 graph ein bischen langer aber nie mehrr als 2-3 secunden, ofter schneller. Denke nicht das es an deine diseqc einstellungen liegen kann sonnst wurde es auch bei qpsk transponder passieren. Nach dem ersten h264 wechsel wird derselbe graph gebraucht, also wenn es einmal aufgebaut ist ist es snell. Hasst du vielleicht andere einstellungen der osd (filter osd vielleicht? oder gebrauchst du der null filter?). Vielleicht kannst du ein backup der settings.ini machen und sehen wie es geht mit standard einstellungen. Aber denke nicht das es daran liegt, fur irgend einem grund scheint der connect der h264 decoder aun dein system langer zu dauren. Ich nehme an du hasst das nicht mit dvbdream?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: dada am 15 Mai, 2011, 20:15

Mit dem DVBViewer geht alles normal, jeder Wechsel dauert so um die 1-2 Sekunden, h264 ein wenig länger. Dream benutze ich nicht. OSD Funktionen oder null Filter sind nicht verwendet. Mit Standard settings, ohne dass ich etwas einstelle, bleibt Smart hängen. Für mich sieht es so aus, als hätte es mit Smart, 8psk und der Tevii zu tun. Mit der S2-3200 funktioniert Smart mit denselben Einstellungen normal und sehr schnell und der Viewer mit der Tevii relativ langsam aber normal.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 Mai, 2011, 22:14

okay interessant. Wenn du mir ein smartdvb.log und bda.log mailt (nach jackavo oder auf dem forum) nach einen langsamen 8psk tune kann ik zumindestens in die logs sehen wo es soviel dauert (ob es an die tuning oder der graph liegt). Ich weiss nicht ob es vielleicht am gebrauchten tevii.dll liegt beim 8psk tuning, habe die neuesten sdk from tevii gebraucht, aber ich denke dvbviewer gebraucht die auch. Aber wenn die 3200 schnell geht kann es nicht am graph liegen, das ist unabhanglich vom bda modul. Kannst du auch der alter bdas.dev probieren und sehen ob damit dasselbe passiert? Dann weiss is sicher ob es mit der tevii.dll zu machen hat.

edit: hasst du es auch ohne auto-fec probiert, hab gelesen dass die tuning verlangsamen kann bei tevii, hab hier ein tevii s660 zum testen und da lauft es einwandfrei, ein bisschen langsam aber okay es ist ja auch eine usb karte?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: dada am 16 Mai, 2011, 12:56

Auch mit bdas.dev geht es langsam und auto-fec macht keinen merklichen Unterschied. Die logs habe ich dir geschickt.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: dada am 16 Mai, 2011, 22:43

Hello Jack,
unser Mailservice is offline! Die neue bda.dev ist perfekt! Danke. qpsk Wechsel kleiner 1 Sekunde, 8psk kleiner 2 Sekunden!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 17 Mai, 2011, 00:20

Hallo,
gut zo horen, denke as es jetzt niecht viel scheller geht. Ist vielleicht ein guter bug-fix auch fur andere tevii's...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 08 Oktober, 2011, 12:55

I'm busy with the next beta. Pre beta testers are welcome, i'll send a test version in the upcoming days. Silencer can you still test xp?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 08 Oktober, 2011, 13:38

hi jackjavo ,

nice to see you here :)

Zitat

Silencer can you still test xp?

yes ...no problem

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 28 Oktober, 2011, 23:30

@silencer: where can i email you, don't think i have your info and it's not readable here. Tried mailing to some dvbcube mail address i saw from you but no go ofcourse. Mail me on jj at hot if you can....
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 28 Oktober, 2011, 23:32

Hi jackjavo

please sent me a copy to : silencer.dvbcube´at´googlemail.com

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 30 Oktober, 2011, 14:41

got a copy from moonchild (thx for it :) ) ;)

made some first tests using my TT S 2 3200 and Win XP SP3 ...no big issues atm ...

what i found  :

1. after changing the channel...the tv screen is flickering a short time (Cyberlink 10 , VMR 9)

2. when changing to fullscreen on second monitor ...getting a ´Decidebuffer setproperties failed ´ error ...but getting a picture on second screen after some seconds...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 01 November, 2011, 16:41

ok...first look with the new smartdvbe.exe you send to me...

Zitat

1. after changing the channel...the tv screen is flickering a short time (Cyberlink 10 , VMR 9)

2. when changing to fullscreen on second monitor ...getting a ´Decidebuffer setproperties failed ´ error ...but getting a picture on second screen after some seconds...

nothing changed

btw. atm i´m only testing under XP Sp3 ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 01 November, 2011, 20:09

okay thanks for testing silencer. The flickering is intentional for vmr9 i remember from the past to prevent image remains in the black borders on aspect ratio changes. Should only happen when aspect changes. I will see if i can look into this in the future, at least make the time interval this is done less (it's repainted for 10 seconds or something if i remember correctly to ensure it works also on slower systems), but sometimes this even still fails for me. So might rething think, was kinda a quick fix at that time for vmr9.
I've sent you an updated smartavsrc.ax which i hoped would prevent that decidebuffer error in smartavsrc.ax. Do you keep getting it or only once?
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 01 November, 2011, 20:12

Hi jack , yes i tried with the new smartavsrc.ax ...but still getting the decidebuffer error when changing to fullscreen on the second monitor ... or vice versa...also in use with other video codecs

Zitat

The flickering is intentional for vmr9 i remember from the past

yes ....correct ...tried with EVR ...and its ok ...but for me...VMR 9 under XP gives me the best picture qualty (sharp and clean) ;)

Zitat

(it's repainted for 10 seconds or something

2-4 seconds here i guess ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 01 November, 2011, 20:40

ah... the decidebuffer error depends on the vmr 9 renderer i think...in use with evr its gone ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 01 November, 2011, 21:27

okay good. But i'll still have to look at it ofcourse as people will want to use cl10 on xp and not older versions, did you try the avc1 option (connetion dialog > add (codec), select cl10 and make sure avc1 checkbox is checked)...
How's the multimon now on xp? I still sometimes have some lockups after a while of use (many screen change operations)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 01 November, 2011, 21:39

Zitat

did you try the avc1 option (connetion dialog > add (codec), select cl10 and make sure avc1 checkbox is checked)...

Yes i did ...

Zitat

How's the multimon now on xp?

same as before (vmr 9) ..

Zitat

I still sometimes have some lockups after a while of use (many screen change operations)..

same here

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 04 November, 2011, 08:53

@silcener: about the freezes after long use of multimon. I have the feeling this happens when changing multimon settings within the program without closing and then going, not sure as it's difficult for me te reproduce and retrace steps as it happens so occasionally. Can you find any consisteny in this?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 04 November, 2011, 11:50

hi jack ,

tried the new beta setup...

the decidebuffer error is unfortunately not gone in use with the vmr 9 renderer (XP)...

yesterday evening a took a short look at the new beta under win 7 x64 ... when i set ´reload channel on monitor change´ in the option dialog ...changing to fullscsreen on secondend montitor and vice versa almost working good...without ...mostly i get a blank / freeze frame ...

Zitat

about the freezes after long use of multimon. I have the feeling this happens when changing multimon settings within the program without closing and then going,

hmm , when i use multimon ... also after a long time running ...i have no further problems about it ...

For me its only the changing sequenze to the second monitor and vice versa ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 05 November, 2011, 01:31

hi silencer,

I'm working hard on fixing the bugs i can here and even couldn't help it to add some things also :-).
Shame about the decidebuffer, i thought the new smartavsrc.ax would help, i'll look further into it.
Still tuning the multimon, seems to be getting better. I'll try putting up a new test in the morning.
You say mostly freeze, but if you change video after the freeze it's okay (without reloading the channel).
If so it's probably just a refresh bug i'm still optimizing that with evr due to all the windows
changes i made recently to get multimon working correctly.

thanks for all the testing..
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 05 November, 2011, 10:08

Zitat

but if you change video after the freeze it's okay (without reloading the channel).

yes ...it looks like its only the monitor changing sequence is a problem ...after that ...its all fine :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 05 November, 2011, 17:31

okay, i'm sending you the latest build i have here, have less probs now with multimon it seems (perhaps only after changing codecs and continuing with multimon i have some locks, but this could also just depend on specific codecs that have problems with the multimon, cyberlink still is the kindest to me).
Still testing myself a bit here. And also need to still look at xp after fixing all things i want in win7.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta (XP SP3)
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 06 November, 2011, 15:37

hiho , here are the results in use of win xp

i´m sorry ..i can´t see any difference to the old version ...

the decidebuffer error is is still there in use with the vmr 9 renderer (XP)... and with vmr 7 its the same ...

and when i use the evr renderer ...the reload option is still necessary...otherwise i get a blank / freeze frame ... mostly

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta (Win 7 SP 1 x64)
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 06 November, 2011, 15:58

hmmm, in use of win 7 its the same story ...the only difference is ...that in use of vmr 9 ... multimon use results in a crash of smartdvb ..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 November, 2011, 16:15

oh that's odd, could be codec related, are u sure the crash is with the same codec as you were using before in that combination? Still want to test xp more thorough, but difficult for me as i have to get it working in vmware again and have problems getting my prof7500 recognized in vmware, still need to look at this :-(

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 06 November, 2011, 16:17

Zitat

are u sure the crash is with the same codec as you were using before in that combination?

yes .... 100 %

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 09 November, 2011, 16:19

hi silencer. Put up an xp test system and indeed, i didn't have the decidebuffer problems you mentioned but surely freezes etc. Still some bugs in the multi code it turns out. With me it now
works reasonable witn vmr9. Btw does cyberlink 10 run stable with you on evr/vmr9 in combination with xp/evr? With me not really, but then again that is not an official combi let's say :-)
I've put a test version up for you under the same link as last time (others that tested can download it there too ofcourse, not much changed besides multi and perhaps stability can still be looked at)..
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 09 November, 2011, 16:29

Hi jack ,

Zitat

i didn't have the decidebuffer problems you mentioned

hmm... will look at it tomorrow on my second pc ...

Zitat

Btw does cyberlink 10 run stable with you on evr/vmr9 in combination with xp/evr?

for me it does

Zitat

I've put a test version up for you under the same link as last time

thx :) ...will try it ... maybe not until tomorrow

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 09 November, 2011, 20:03

well just to be sure you also can re-register smartavsrc.ax (with regsvr32.exe) that was installed with lastest beta (i've had users report problems in the past where this filter was not registered correctly). Don't really think this is your issue, otherwise you'd have other error messages. Btw i used an ati 5570 (i think) and liked the speed and stabiity on xp 32 bit once configured correctly. Ii did have quite some hangs though due to codecs not cooperating on evr mainkly it turns out here, but other apps have this too ofcourse or does smart suffer more from that in your opinion? Picture is good (also on hd-tv) of the ati card compared to the nvidia (M330) i develop on now..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 10 November, 2011, 11:11

Zitat

Don't really think this is your issue, otherwise you'd have other error messages.

Yes ...me too

Zitat

Btw i used an ati 5570 (i think) and liked the speed and stabiity on xp 32 bit once configured correctly.

I´m using only nvidia cards (look at me sig)

Zitat

i did have quite some hangs though due to codecs not cooperating on evr mainkly it turns out here, but other apps have this too ofcourse

For me it looks like that some older video codecs doesn´t work 100% with the evr renderer ...but also in other dvb-apps ...

---

Tried the new beta on both pc´s ...

pc 1 (Arbeits.- Testrechner) : looks like before ...including the decidebuffer error ...

pc 2 (HTPC) : here i get no decidebuffer error ...others things like pc 1 ...

hmm...it looks like theres is something wrong on pc 1 .... will have a deeper look at this ...but maybe it needs much time (that i doesn´t have yet) to solve  ... because this must be very special (in other dvb-apps i don´t have multimon problems)

on the other hand ... xp becomes more ans more obsolete these days ...and at last ...i can live with evr when i use xp ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 10 November, 2011, 11:53

Perhaps I can be of any help. I'm also using smartDVB.

My system specs are
Intel Q9400
Ati 5850
Windows 7 64-bit
TT-budget S2 1600 BDA driver
SmartDVB 2.1.0 beta 4
Cyberlink PDVD10 Decoder
EVR

EDIT: Sometimes I get freezes of the picture, when switching from "TV and Menu" to floating window. This can be solved by going to fullscreen first and after that to floating windows.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 10 November, 2011, 20:04

@silencer: well, maybe it's xp 64 bit mode, i remember subtle differences in stability when i tested way back with that, but it's long ago :-)
@snoop: mail me and i'll send you a link with the latest pre-beta 5 build (on normal mail not sure i can attach here)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 10 November, 2011, 20:15

Zitat

@silencer: well, maybe it's xp 64 bit mode

do you mean xp x64 ? on both pcs it is XP x86 SP 3  

Zitat

not sure i can attach here

attach in this thread ? no problem ...max Filesize is 4 MB and those attachments are only visible to logged in users ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 11 November, 2011, 00:55

yes i meant x64..have not had other reports but still will look if i can make it more robust..doing some more tests here..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 November, 2011, 13:47

Hello a new test build is available for the ones testing or wanting to test.
@silencer: not sure if this one will resolve your multimon problems on xp. Haven't been able to test that yet again. But for me as long as i wait long enough during
mon changes (about 10 seconds) it runs stable it seems (also vmr9 on win 7 with various different combinations).
The scanner has been changed somewhat to try to get it more stable/consistent so if that could be tested..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 15 November, 2011, 13:55

hi jack ... thx :)

Zitat

@silencer: not sure if this one will resolve your multimon problems on xp.

will look at it ..maybe this evening...

btw. check the download link in the mail you send (i replaced it with the correct one for myself) ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 November, 2011, 14:13

Zitat

btw. check the download link in the mail you send (i replaced it with the correct one for myself)

oh okay, trying to get organized here but made a mistake :) ..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 15 November, 2011, 14:35

Hi Jack,
where to download? I did not get any mail although I wrote you a mail as you said to the mail adress you are using here at the forum.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 November, 2011, 15:27

hi Snoop,
Just sent you the link. I think you probably didn't receive anything the first time as i was sending out files at that time and got bounces here and there? Or maybe i just forgot last week, was hecktic due to lots of mails..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 15 November, 2011, 16:20

Hi Jack,

thanks! I got the mail now ... testing ...  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 15 November, 2011, 17:03

I have some Problems:
I uninstalled the former version and installed the new one.

* I got flickering in HD Channels
* Sometimes I have to double click the channels to change (I set to one click) (that was also the case in the versions before)
* When changing to floating window, the window is very narrow, the height is ok. After changing the width to normal, exiting and restarting SmartDVB the window is narrow again.

As earlier mentioned: EVR and PowerDVD10 Decoder under Windows 7 64

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 November, 2011, 20:47

Zitat

I got flickering in HD Channels

on fta channels? tried other codecs/renderers? extra buffering option on/off? You might want to reconnect cl 10 (add it again in connnection/add dialog) and make sure avc1 is turned of (maybe that worked
better in previous beta4).

Zitat

Sometimes I have to double click the channels to change (I set to one click) (that was also the case in the versions before)

ok odd i'll look into this

Zitat

When changing to floating window, the window is very narrow, the height is ok. After changing the width to normal, exiting and restarting SmartDVB the window is narrow again.

oh i see, stupid bug that got in there at the end, fixed and i've updated the link just in case this is too bothersome for testers..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 15 November, 2011, 21:25

Another bug:
The menu goes weird! When clicking an entry, I cant click any further ...

Edit: That sometimes makes  my desktop almost unusable. Alt+Tab does not word, I have to switch between the apps by using Windows+Tab, to get the process manager on to in order to kill SmartDVB.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 November, 2011, 21:38

what menu? and all the time?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 15 November, 2011, 21:51

The whole menu bar, not all the time. Right now a manged to get into the options dialog.

---

Ok, I'm some steps further.  :)

The HD channels are working with ffdshow codec and the menu seems to work by double clicking the entries  :hmm

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 15 November, 2011, 21:58

Installed the last version with the fixed floating window. The size is ok again, but I have the same  freeze as mentioned above ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 16 November, 2011, 12:33

hiho ...sorry ...i´m late ;)

here are my results for latest smyrtdvb (fresh install as usual) beta and win xp x86 sp3 :

in use of vmr 9 : 1-2 secondes of tv screen flickering on channel change as before, floating window is here ok too, mouse arrow is gone when i enter one of the menus and i have to double click the menu items to do something.

When i try to use multimon in use of vmr 9 ... smartdvb freezes (tried several times with the same result).

in use of evr : no flickering on channel change, mouse arrow in menus is fine, multimon works fine , when i switch to floating window i get sometimes a black screen ,

when i use the floating menu ...

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7775/climsyclipboardai.jpg)

sometimes i have to double click the menu items to do something, other menus are ok

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 17 November, 2011, 13:47

Now I tried different video rendering modes:
No matter if I use EVR, VMR 9 or overlay - I have flickering in HD fta with all my codecs (don't know, why it worked once before with this build and ffdshow :( ):
ffdshow 1.1.3882
CoreAVC 3.0.1
PDVD10
Elecard AVC

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 17 November, 2011, 23:28

ok thanks. I've not replied before as i've been spending the time i have on coding as there were problems. I also had those pic stability issues, just had not tested picture stability while changing stuff for tbs. For one i think making the app work with tbs cards required making things more robust but these changes can also cause slowdowns, so maybe a special version for tbs cards or option in the app, dunno yet, because  before smart didn't seem to have these issues with other cards (or maybe smart did with other cards that didn't work correctly, not much have been tested with latest builds ofcourse, don't like to make smart slower/more problematic just for tbs card changes).

@silencer: that flickering on vmr9 is intentional for now (needed to remove black borders on aspect changes with vmr9 in the past).
I'll fix the mouse issues with vmr9 (and rest of app hopefully, need to rework some things i did quickly in the past)  for the next test, also the clicks prob, just give me some time :-)

@snoop: can you try using the old bdas.dev device (if that works for you?) and see if that gives more stable picture?

I hope to get the next test there tomorrow with a good link this time :-)

grts..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 18 November, 2011, 06:31

Zitat

for the next test, also the clicks prob, just give me some time :-)

no problem ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 18 November, 2011, 15:07

Beats me ... just started up SmartDVB and have no issues with HD channels ... no flicker ... nothing! The only thing I changed is from AERO to Basic in Windows 7 ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 20 November, 2011, 16:02

i don´t have this issue ...but this should depends on graphics card and driver ...

---

Here are the results (XP SP 3) for the latest (updated) beta ...

in use of vmr 9 : the mouse arrow is fine now when entering the menus, when i try to use multimon in use of vmr 9 ... the decidebuffer error is back (doesn´t checked this atm on pc 2)...after click ´ok´ and reload channel ..it works fine ...

in use of evr : no flickering on channel change, mouse arrow in menus is fine too ...also in use of the floating menu, multimon works fine

---

general : EPG is fine, no scanning issues (but i have only 19,2), recording looks good (checked with ProjectX) and UDP streaming looks good also ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 23 November, 2011, 15:18

sorry for the delay guys. But having issues after last updates, especially on windows xp so trying to solve those.
@snoop: how odd, don't use aero myself (also basic win 7) but maybe good to test areo once in a while too ..
@silencer: still busy with the xp probs (best would be to setup a development environment on xp too to
quickly be able to debug these things)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 24 November, 2011, 20:43

hi guys. Just sent a new test, if i've missed someone drop me a note. Tested some more on xp now and works okay for me at least (but when changing video renderers in the app it's best to restart i think there are some probs there still,but anyway, i'm going to get this out soon if this version turns out reasonable, it's still a beta after all :-)
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 24 November, 2011, 20:50

thx jack :)

will try it tomorrow ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 24 November, 2011, 21:14

First Test running, no issues so far  ;D

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 25 November, 2011, 09:31

Looks fine here too under XP :)

on pc 1 i get the decide buffer error again in use of vmr 9 ...but on my htpc not ...so i think we can ignore this if nobody else get it... ;)

 

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 25 November, 2011, 17:02

ok good to hear guys, maybe i can release this then finally even if there still are small things these might be ironed out in the final release. About your xp problems, could be some codec issue, but ur always very thorough so you probably tried various (if cyberlink?) or maybe reinstalled the codec?

jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 25 November, 2011, 17:12

Yes ...tried different codecs etc... makes no difference ,,,for me it looks like a directshow problem when using the vmr 9 renderer .. but i can´t locate it  :-\

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 26 November, 2011, 14:38

oh well we'll see if other users reports this then, i've put up the new beta 5 at the smartdvb.net site..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 26 November, 2011, 16:37

Zitat

i've put up the new beta 5 at the smartdvb.net site..

ok...i saw this also on the dvbsupport.net site ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 26 November, 2011, 19:27

oh that's odd. I thought dvbsupport.net was down as i haven't been able to access it for a while from this pc??

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 26 November, 2011, 20:35

Maybe a DNS problem (depends on your isp..if you use the dns settings from those) ... site was never gone ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 26 November, 2011, 22:45

lol no i already found it somehow that site got in my hosts file with a different ip... ? anyways removed and working again

Titel: Install and first test of the SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 28 November, 2011, 13:12

Did this 2 days ago but found no time to write about the results. So, here we go:

Setup was quick (about 5 min) and flawless. I uninstalled a previous version of SmartDVB first but did no reboot.
The program itself showed my old scan results from the previous installation (Astra and Hotbird).
Scanned again Hotbird (scanning time in SmartDVB window showed 5:41 min).
Got 1474 video, 411 audio and 121 data channels, more than with DVBViewer!

A quick check with randomly zapped channels gave good tuning results, no problems with video nor audio.
I failed in scanning Astra 19,2 east. Tried triggering every knob in the program - no way to get a scan on this sattelite!
Maybe somebody has a clue to this problem showing me the fastest way to get the Astra channels updated?
Anyway, I then used my old program-list and succeded to tune in a bunch of channels. Only the "ARD" programs
failed totally to show up on the screen.

A very good program that has nice features and easy to use menu (except for me, failing completely in updating
Astra channels). One thing I could not test was the CI feature (I have a Sky Germany abo with Alphacrypt Light
and a Nagra smartcard).

Will test again as soon as I have a workaround for updating Astra!

EDIT: Got the "workaround" by simply choosing "BDA" device and not "Florian"! Now I can tune all HD programs FTA...Nice view  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 30 November, 2011, 19:52

@ritschibie: shouldn't make a difference for the scanning really if you select bdas or bda, so odd. What is your switch setup? If it's cascaded you might want to enable 'send diseqc on each transponder change' in the diseqc settings as this provides correct switch operation in such cases.

About ci. Implementation for this atm is very limited and only technotrend and twinhan support is there, but from what i gathered in the past this doesn't even work correctly for all tt users especially it seems, probalby timing related or whatever as i think the actual PMT sending code is okay. Users have asked about technisat ci support etc, but specifications for these things are unfinadable to me so far...

jack
(you can download updated .exe/dev/smaravsrc.ax at smartdvb forum, i'd put up the links here too but i'll await if your problem is solved, some other users had hangs etc so if you experience that might as wel update too)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 02 Dezember, 2011, 21:13

hi. Quick question, got a quiery about madvr integration, didn't know that tool, sounds interesting that new renderer. User said it's just evr with another guid, but i thought i'd better ask here before mailing the author (is it a german product?)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 02 Dezember, 2011, 21:18

Hi jack , please look here (http://www.dvbcube.org/index.php?topic=30750.0) about madvr ...

 Its a ´no go´ in my eyes ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 03 Dezember, 2011, 20:01

ok tx silencer. Had already read about this local search functionality, and realise this can be a major security issue ofcourse. On the other hand, adding implementation would not necessarily run madvr, just when selected as renderer i guess so people would have choice, but may not be aware of this ofcourse so madvr should at least be able to turn this off?? Otherwise what would be the reason to force this on users would also be my thought. Nevertheless, implementation is not trivial probably so would not have happened any time soon anyway :-)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 03 Dezember, 2011, 21:38

Zitat

Otherwise what would be the reason to force this on users would also be my thought.

Thats the point ... so...for me ..there is no reason to use or support madvr ...

Zitat

Nevertheless, implementation is not trivial probably so would not have happened any time soon anyway :-)

 :jo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 03 Dezember, 2011, 21:58

@jackavo: thx for the advice. I could test now the Alphacrypt light and the sky smartcard in my TT 3200. Unfortunately, on my system it does not work. I have no difficulties in running the smartcard with the DVBViewer. Until we have no members here that use the CI implementation on their TT 3200 with an AC light and a smartcard my tests cannot be proven right or wrong. I still have problems in changing the channels from one sat to the other when I select the Florian BDA (using the BDA driver I get no difficulties at all).

HD picture is very good and my cyberlink codecs work very well in the smartdvb. Keep on running jackavo and thx for the program! :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 04 Dezember, 2011, 01:27

@richibie: oh i should have mentioned. CI support is only there in bda.dev (Florian). I switched to bda.dev as the main bda module a while back and have
not updated bdas.dev for a while. Are you sure you're using the last beta 5 version available from the site? And also i have some fix in there which might
also fix your problems in case of sat switching, maybe especially if you're using a rotor? I'll include a link here to some updated components (smartdvb.exe,
smartavsrc.ax and bda.dev), simply copy them over your current beta 5 install files.

hxxp://www.smartdvb.net/smartdvb/download/smartdvbupdate.rar

(change xx in http when cutting and pasting).

Or if you're using cascaded switches for scanning especially enable 'send diseqc on each transponder' in settings.
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 05 Dezember, 2011, 20:50

since there seem to be some power users of smart here i'll post this query here too. Some users are experiencing freezes after hours of single stream viewing? Anyone here experienced that, or not? (not everyone is gonna be able to test that i realise)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 05 Dezember, 2011, 21:19

Yes ... but very rarely ....

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 05 Dezember, 2011, 21:24

@jackavo: I downloaded the three (3) files and put the .exe into the root folder of programme/smartdvb, one in the filter and the last one in the device folder. I restarted smartdvb
and chose the Florian bda driver. I tried for two hours to decrypt the "Sky" stream but the picture remained black (only epg was seen).

I have a dual lnb dish with quadro setting. I'll try tomorrow the "das erste HD" stream and let it run for 6 hours. I'll post the result in the evening.

Thx

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Snoop am 05 Dezember, 2011, 22:05

I had such freezes in the last beta 4 version. With beta 5 I did not watch such long ...  ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 06 Dezember, 2011, 02:48

Did not have any freezes yet, with beta 5.
But I also did not yet let it run for hours all to often, as I am working intensively on my LNBs, cables and switches ATM.

And to avoid ruining my tuners, of course I'm powering them down then.
Will for sure need a couple of days more to finish.
A service interval of almost fifteen years, that's OK for me.
And there are some small changes to be implemented, like more user ports for my flat.
Even more cables through the unused chimneys, now running into different rooms, plus Cat.7 and alike. 

Anyway, I am having a beginners issue here.
And in fact I must confess being quite a beginner on both, SmartDVB and 7 Pro SP1 x64...

Each time I am starting SmartDVB, Windows complains about "unknown publisher"  ???

Can this be avoided somehow?
Like, should I better have used a non-default install path?

Don't have to much experience with installing software on 7, as most is in portable versions here, also accessible from XP.
And original software from hardware vendors often comes without a certificate, requiring "install anyway", but no such complaints there after.

BTW, you may have seen my avatar elsewhere already, but with a different user name.
There were some good reasons for this, a few years ago.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 Dezember, 2011, 16:51

okay guys thanks. I´m looking into these freezes somtimes, as i don´t believe this comes from discontinuities anymore. Am thinking maybe some audio stream handling problem.
About unknown publisher, strange message, might be UAC related (as smart is originally an xp application the extra data-files auto-created in the program-files are protected in win7 and user data should be put in specified directories for that, not very hard to change will do that for version after 0.2.1. Just didn't want to do it atm as it probably will need testing to allow correct upgrading for all previous versions (so the installer will have to move older files to new win7 directories so no data will be lost etc). You may be able to avoid this by disabling UAC, but this might be undesirable from a security perspective ofcourse (although i read most developers turn it off as it's super-tedious to have to click through that hunderds of times a day when debugging or whatever).

@ritschibie : if you want to invest time in this (with no guarantee that i'll be able to solve it lol) you can send me bda.log after such sky decrypt attempts, also smartdvb.log i'll be able to se if at least the pmt is sent etc (which it probably is), at least for tt code i know where to look. Maybe you can use a tool like Cam Control for now for tt, didn't know it but a user mentioned it a while back to view encrypted tt channels (not handy though as you have to manually select to decode each time you change channel it seems)..
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 07 Dezember, 2011, 03:04

Will not play around with UAC right now, as I'm afraid, this may need quite some time here.

But I've just tried to install into a folder C:\SmartDVB, instead of <Program files (x86)> ~ "Programme (x86)"
Result, no changes in behaviour.
So, the "unknown publisher" ~ "Unbekannter Herausgeber" issue is not depending on the install path.

Well, I can live with this for a while.

Though, I am getting ideas now.
Does SmartDVB really have to write into the registry?
Like regarding the Smart***.ax filters, is this a must?
Seems to be the only severe reason, that is keeping me away from using SmartDVB as a portable app.
If SmartDVB won't exist here, the filters also won't.
So I suppose, no other application needs to know about those...
In fact, moving the SmartDVB folder system to another path, the only real issues are with those filters, plus in case with record folder path (as it's not relative), and maybe timeshift file as well.
Perhaps it's possible, to let the user select between relative and absolute paths for those?

OK, just ideas, no more than that.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 07 Dezember, 2011, 11:27

about that "unbekannter herausgeber", when do you see this messages, before the main smartdvb window is visible or afterwards? If the latter it could be plugin/codec related (i have had odd popus with misconfigured codecs in the past, not to mention some plugins can fail or load bunch of components depending on how they were made ofcourse.

Smart doesn't register anything in the registry itself, just uses.ini's. The MS installer does though (the transponder ini's are made permanent, as to not delete them automatically on uninstall, but in such case the installer puts entries in the registry for each .ini, which seems tedious so i might remove those things). And active-x components (.ax) need to be registered in the registry to be able to use them in code (create on guid etc), will not be different for alt or dvbdream. Regsvr32.exe simply registers them, regsvr32 /u unregisters them. I will make two .BAT files to register/unregister them, and include them in the install. In such case when using the app portable one click on the register.bat will do the job, afterwards you can unregister them again as to leave no traces in the system. I could also perhaps do it internally in smart (when noticing some component is not creatable try to register it in code, but i'm not sure if this is the best option). I saw a portable something of dvbdream floating around a while ago, but never looked at it, must have the same issue. Besided that smart should be nicely portable because of the .ini usage i guess. But there's one major catch here, vs2010 applications require some vs2010 specific runtime .dll's. The msi installer includes them and they are included with install. Most win7 systems will probably have these libraries installed already, you just need one app that uses them to have them already, but no guarantee ofcourse. Installing the vs2010 redistributable package (freely downloadable) fixes this but might also be undesirable ofcourse. I could perhaps try to make a totally statically linked version of smartdvb, but last time i tried this there were problems, and ms does also not recommend this especially for DLL's and smart uses quite some ofcourse (.dev etc).

edit: oh and btw, if it's codec related you can try to press SHIFT at smartdvb startup and no channel/codec connection will be made (maybe i should also make a shortcut for no device init also, but you can also simply remove the settings.ini, or just remove the dev* startup settings in settings.in manuallyi, in such emergency cases and smart will restart with device query, although not all users will realise this ofcourse). And also smart is

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 07 Dezember, 2011, 12:46

@jackavo: this "cam control" seems to have been developped for the TT-card-series for the MS Media Centre. Following this
hxxp://www.mce-community.de/forum/index.php?showtopic=37419 forum thread it has several bugs and is only running with
a lot of manual interventions. So I will just hide myself before it touches my PC  ;)

I'm not vsure if I can make it today with the log's but will try.

I had "phoenix" for 4 hours running, no freeze, same for 150 min's (approx.) of "Rai 1" yesterday.

edit: just had a look into the smartdvb files and could'nt find a log file...where do I have to look to?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 07 Dezember, 2011, 18:23

@richschibie: oh okay, i just remembered some user who also could not use ce on his tt 3200 i think, saying it worked for him with smart (never totally researched it myself).
The log should be in the devices directory in the 'program files/smartdvb' where smart is installed (bda.log, but i'm not sure atm if there's even debug logs there for tt yet, will have to look lateron).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Dragonix am 07 Dezember, 2011, 18:55

Hi,
vielen Dank für die tolle Software!
Ich hab allerdings 2 Fragen:
1. Ich kann keine Radiosender anhören. Ich vermute aber, dass SmartDVB nichts dafür kann, sondern einfach mein DirectShow kaputt ist? Ältere Versionen von DVBDream (zum Beispiel) funktionieren nämlich.
2. Wenn ich den "Record" Knopf drück, kommt ja ein Fenster das mich fragt, welche Streams ich aufzeichnen möchte. Nehm ich aber was per Timer auf, wird nur eine Tonspur aufgenommen. Kann ich das irgendwo einstellen, das prinzipiell alle Streams aufgezeichnet werden sollen?

Ansonsten: Nochmal, klasse Software!

Nun eine Übersetzung in katastrophales Englisch, viel spaß beim amüsieren...

Hi,
thanks for this great piece of software!
However, i've got two questions:
1. If I want to listen to a Radio Station with SmartDVB, there's no sound. I can tune to the channel, record it, but I can't listen to it. However, as it is working with older (free) versions of DVBDream, I guess my DirectShow system is screwed up?! Or can anyone confirm this problem? Codecs tried: A recent version of FFdshow and Cyberlink (V7? 8?), these are the same codecs that work flawlessly in DVBDream.
2. When recoding something with the "record" button, a window pops up and I can select which streams should be recorded (Audio streams, TXT, PAT, Video, etc.). But when I schedule a record, SmartDVB only records one audio pid, how can I change that? If that's not possible yet, don't you want to implement that function  :rg  :jo *hint hint :D*

Despite that: Again, a really great software!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 08 Dezember, 2011, 02:58

Zitat von: jackjavo am 07 Dezember, 2011, 11:27

about that "unbekannter herausgeber", when do you see this messages, before the main smartdvb window is visible or afterwards?

Before.

No plugins involved (yet).
Just out of the box.

BTW, there are two tuners involved, see my signature.
Both are BDA devices.
And I am proud to say, SmartDVB switches between them properly, once I've mixed some stations into the same favs list.

For satellite it's a Cinergy S2 USB HD.

And DVB-T is available from a Noxon DAB+ stick, as Windows handles it as a DVB-T device. Works well as such.
Same with other DVB applications.

Only the original Noxon / Fraunhofer software knows how to switch it to DAB / DAB+, even including L band tuning.
This may perhaps be yet another interesting issue to do some research on?

BTW, I've just updated the Noxon original software, and it also has that "unbekannter Herausgeber" popup at install time, but just once, and not at application start.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 08 Dezember, 2011, 11:54

@dragonix: hi and thanks. You should be able to hear radio channels without issues, if you can view video/audio there's nothing wrong with your codec setup etc. You mention the video codecs (cyberlink) for radio, but with radio channels only the audio decoder ir involved (ffdshow also has audio decoder ofcourse) You could try using ac3filter as audio decoder for audio (if you're not already using that) and make sure you have no extra options selected (especially perhaps the 'null filter' is not selected in osd settings as that has caused some problems with audio in the past).
Oh yes and the record all audio tracks on scheduled records is something i forgot, it has been requested quite some time so i will add it in the coming time..

@jurgen: well if it happens on install with that other app (and other applications you install perhaps?) that gives me more reason to think the message stems from something in elevation on windows 7 (i know with vs2010 the install program always has to run in Administrator mode (thus elevated) to be able to make changes to the system ofcourse. As mentioned i will remove this soon in smartdvb, but for now it runs elevated i'm assuming that ohter application that give it just at install not? (you don't get a popup each time you run that app, and with smart yes?).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 09 Dezember, 2011, 01:30

Zitat von: jackjavo am 08 Dezember, 2011, 11:54

you don't get a popup each time you run that app, and with smart yes?

Precisely.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: moonchild am 10 Dezember, 2011, 19:55

Running under xp32 with 2 amd cards.

Anyone tried powerdvd 11 mpeg2/h264 filter (clcvd.ax?) with smartdvb yet? I get source connect failure with it. If it worked for you, please state the version number of the .ax file.

I need to try newer pdvd filter, since pdvd 9 gives me error with multimon and dxva enabled on hdtv channels, without dxva all is fine. Tried vmr7 and 9. Also version number of working pdvd 10 filter would be nice ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: dada am 10 Dezember, 2011, 20:53

that filter works fine: Version number is 1.0.0.2806 I am using it with DXVA and EVR.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: moonchild am 10 Dezember, 2011, 21:42

Thanks, you mean pdvd 10 or 11?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: dada am 10 Dezember, 2011, 21:43

pdvd11!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: moonchild am 10 Dezember, 2011, 22:36

under Windows 7 SP1 x64 Pro?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: dada am 10 Dezember, 2011, 23:09

yes, the conditions are in my sig. I use this codec for mpg2 and H264 video, and audio decoder is AC3. Depending on data rate, CPU usage for HD video is between 25 and 40%.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: moonchild am 10 Dezember, 2011, 23:46

Danke :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 11 Dezember, 2011, 16:25

hi Moonchild. From my tests cl10 and 11 work okay. For 11 you might want to stop the evr graph as sometimes on my system i still have a freeze there when not stopping evr, not with cl10 which runs best on my system at least.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: moonchild am 11 Dezember, 2011, 18:42

All is fine now with pdvd 10 clcvd.ax 1.0.0.1930 and vmr7/9. Actually just putting the .ax on my system and registering the old way made the filter unusable, i had to install the whole powerdvd trial program.

I have a Logitech diNovo mini now, and trying to make smartdvb work like htpc application (doing it all on fullscreen).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 11 Dezember, 2011, 22:53

Hi moonchild,

This sounds pretty interesting! Is it too demanding from my side asking you some more details about your htpc system?

- What major parts are involved in the htpc (left aside the Logitech diNovo)?
- Is it running in the winworld or in the penguin universe?
- What kind of soft are you using on the htpc?
- Do you have a picture of it?
- Is it easy to use?

I for my side have renounced to build a htpc. My TT 3200 is running on the PC with the DVBViewer and alternatively the Smartdvb soft. In the living room I enjoy the simple comfort of a dualtuning Humax Icord and that's more than enough for my TV aspirations.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 12 Dezember, 2011, 04:54

BTW, I just ran SmartDVB for several hours, and I did not find any kind of freezing issues here.

Conditions;

Signature system 1.), using the Cinergy tuner on 7Pro x64 SP1, all latest drivers and updates

ITV1 HD  on 28.2°E, 10936 V 22000, L~64%, Q=100%, true FullHD 1920x1080 50i

EVR, set to Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder (v6.1.7140.0) for all decoders, using Realtek onboard analogue stereo audio.
Don't have any DVD player software / codec bundle installed yet, just the original software for my tuner, and MS codecs resulting from some initial TV recordings playback attempts in WMP.

All AMD / ATI Video related settings are default
Screen is attached by HDMI, running at native resolution and frame rate, 1920x1080p60

BTW,
CPU load between 6 and 10 %, running at 4x 800 MHz (instead of 4x3GHz), 44W package power (instead of max. 140W), 39 - 41 °C core temp, 12cm CPU fan at 1000 RPM
System temp. 39°C (normally around 34°C)
Radeon HD 6570 temperature 76°C, passive heatpipe cooling (normally around 61°C)  
All values taken from SIW

So, the h.264 hardware decoding heats up my graphics card for 15°, and it results in an extra total system power consumption of slightly above 15 Watts (read from my fine energy cost meter), compared to DVB off.


Can't give full report on scanning behaviour yet, as I am still working on my dishes, LNBs, switches and a few of the cables.
Means, some more fine adjustment and testing to be done, specially for the critically weak England beam transponders.
My 28.2°E LNB is on a multifeed, 9° off centre on a cheap old 1m dish, last aligned several years ago...

However, I've noticed, I have to set the lock timeout to 5000 (at least), to not lose to many transponders, mainly of those with low symbol rates.
Perhaps the timings should be possible to store, tuner specific, as they may also depend on the tuner in use.
One reason is, AGC is pretty slow on my Cincergy.

Another proposal, when trying to update from NIT, and all transponders selected, this should not stop without result, if the first transponder is inactive.
Should be better to allow proceeding with the next one then.
Perhaps (full) NIT scanning should even step trough all transponders of a position, first all from existing the list, then perhaps also through the daisy chained newly found.
Reason is, on some positions, there is more than one network, and some are not linking to (all) others.
Perhaps it may be useful, to also add NIT search to the normal scan routine (optionally).
My receiver does it that way, adding an extra scan on the newly found transponders at the end.

Oh well, I've discussed most on this years ago already, like with the authors of ProgDVB and DVBsVCR2.
But (for different reasons) both are history for me now...  

On channel switching, I can also find a few seconds of initial stuttering, that's it.
  
All together, SmartDVB is great, a must-have these days.
Pretty close to perfection.
Allow me to thank you for all your effort  8)

Best regards

Jürgen

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: moonchild am 13 Dezember, 2011, 17:44

Zitat von: ritschibie am 11 Dezember, 2011, 22:53

Hi moonchild,

This sounds pretty interesting! Is it too demanding from my side asking you some more details about your htpc system?

Ohne dieses Topic zu kapern einige Antworten. Mit htpc meine ich TV, Aufnahmen gucken und Musik hoeren, Wetterberichte, Twitter und anderen Unsinn brauche ich hier nicht.

Seit vielen Jahren gebrauche ich den Pc im Arbeitszimmer um im Wohn/Schlafzimmer zu gucken. Video/Aidio Kabel gelegt und mit MT un Ati Remote Wonder gucken.

Die Hardware wechselt immer. Zur Zeit Intel Core 2 Duo, AMD 5670 (TV) und 4350, TT 3200 und hdd/ssd etc.

Da ich die Ati RW zur Zeit noch nicht mit smartdvb gebrauchen kann, bin ich jetzt mit der diNovo mini am experimentieren.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 14 Dezember, 2011, 18:17

about the htpc working. Right now there is a simple osd channellist but i remember the key-shortcuts for that were not intuitive (never put that much work into the evr/vmr osd as it was always my intention to make something new after making that initially). I'll see if i can change the osd channellist shortcuts more intuitive. And also the entering of 'numbers' to change channel (ch #) is not working optimal also so will see to look at that also as to not make htpc usage too tedious. As the bugs seem to have lessened, and i also like to make new stuff, i've started work on a blindscan interface (as i have a prof7500 want to test that out a bit) using crazycats streamreader. Anyone here with blindscan cards and interested in that? If so drop me a note and i'll send a test version the coming days when testable in my eyes. I know i said i didn't want to add new functionality for the coming version, but testing is going well and i kinda promised this a while back and this blindscan interface will/should have no effect on the rest (and i also can't help myself something as this also is a hobby and i just like to see that stuff in action lol)..

@jurgen: thanks. I actually looked at this NIT updating some time ago. As some american did (forgot the name of the app atm) it's possible to get all frequencies by continually parsing the nits and updating channels where needed no scans would be necessary anymore (and sifting to the frequencies recursively i guess as you say). But left the idea as i was unsure if this would work for all providers all over the world (does work ok in america it seems), so at best it perhaps could be some backup mechanism to keep frequency lists/channels updated automagically. But with all these blindscanning cards/and software popping up i wonder it it's worth the trouble and if perhaps integrating blindscan to correctly work within smart concerning channel/frequency maintanance is the better option (most cards have no blindscan possibility ofcourse so).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 15 Dezember, 2011, 04:43

Regarding NIT scanning, there are at least two position I know, that require more than one seed channel for complete results, and those are 13°E and 28.x°E.

Found out about this some years ago on experiments with DVBsVCR2, that came without transponder lists.
It seems, the situation is not better these days.
So, NIT scanning alone is not enough, just an additional option.
And as LOFs of real LNBs always will deviate and float a bit, the nominal transponder frequencies, that are read from NIT or external sources, are not supposed to be really identical with blindscan results.
For normal users, it's merely impossible to find out about each LOF deviation on his dish set precisely.
Though, this might perhaps be specified automatically by calculating from AFC values against NIT one day?

BTW, none of my computer tuners is truely blindscan capable. Nothing but dirty software tricks and limitations...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 Dezember, 2011, 20:41

@moonchild: that ati rw remove, does that perhaps work with something like eventghost with smartdvb? It's a tool which works with various remotes and can send keystrokes or winlirc commands for example to smartdvb. I remember testing on this years ago. It's hard to configure i remember, but it's open source. There are also other commercial remote programs like girder, intelliremote of which intelli seems the easiest to setup.
I don't remember if you can create something like profiles or whatever with eventghost. If i have time i'll try to set it up sometime again (new pc) would be nice if it works to create smartdvb profiles if possible for various remotes which could be put in the forum etc..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 Dezember, 2011, 20:48

@jurgen: i meant more like feedhunting frequencies etc, those will perhaps never be on any nit list at all, so an entire NIT based application seemed a bad choice, had a discussion at one time with some let's say american with that :-). But if it's not too much work i'll at least make some recursive nit scanning possible so let's say you select a couple of transponders for nit scanning (perhaps save that as nit selection or whatever) then nit scan these channels and the scan also scans found frequencies/polarities until finished?

Well i've been testing now, have a hardware blindscan card (prof 7500 usb card) which is supported by crazycat streamreader. Very early testing but it looks like at least you can blindscan 19.2 in about 8 minutes (not checked if list is complete or whatever yet, but looks reasonable at first sight). But you have to have hardware blindscanning capabilities supported by crazycat's blscan and streamreader.dll. And i don't even know if i have a fast blindscan card as it's the first time i'm looking at this. Your cards don't support that ofcourse so you get software blindscanning, i won't even support that :-)

jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 16 Dezember, 2011, 02:09

Astonishingly I am getting tons of feeds from NIT on 30°W Hispasat.
About 80% or more of those are inactive ATM. Few have an empty carrier, still not allowing a lock. Some carry a place holder still picture.
Means, on every full scan I am getting just a handful of changes.
And NIT is working from many regular transponders, if not all.

This is just one way a satellite system may be handled by the owner.

Compared to this, the situation on 28,x°E Astra2/Eurosat is completely different.
Had to try a bunch of transponders, before finding one carrying NIT. The only one I've found up to now is 12688 H 22000.
So, if your box or software does not know about that seed transponder, no way to search by NIT alone there.

And as I told before, on 13°E Hotbird you would need a set of seed transponders, to collect data for all networks there on.
Else your results would be target country specific, more or less.

So all together, NIT is a nice feature, but no more that some extra comfort and time savings, plus true transponder frequencies, not effected by LOF deviations.

Regarding my other tuners, the Noxon DAB(+) one misused for DVB-T won't give me any NIT here, and with my MSI digivox mini2 DVB-T stick it's the same.
My XORO HRT-7500 DVB-T STB does not even provide NIT scanning, though it's satellite brother HRS-8500/-8520 DVB-S2 does.
Makes me believe, at least German DVB-T is not supposed to use NIT. A possible good reason may be, different transponders may have different local coverage.
The HRS-8500 provides standard, NIT and blind scan. Blind scan takes quite some time, may be about half an hour, but it seems to work quite well, even for SCPC
symbol rates below 02000.
Steps of 2 to 3 MHz are used for empty gaps. but not inside of the space occupied by proven active signals. Those are jumped over.

Sad to say, the vendor does not provide any tool, to open and analyse or even edit the channel database of the HRS-8500 on a computer.
Will have to do some intense research on this occasionally, as sorting more than 2000 stations (marked as free, only) by use of the onscreen menu and normal remote controller, always one by one and step by step, is a really stupid idea...

However, on the computer we have several alternatives to make scanning and sorting easy, like by transponder lists from the internet, a small characters ready hi-res GUI, multiple selecting cut & paste, mouse controlled action...
That's one big benefit I don't want to miss.

[off-topic]
Just one thing left I am missing badly, a fast and high resolution spectrum analyser.
Suitable sat meters cost a real fortune.
But a suitable software on a small notebook with USB tuner might be really helpful (on the roof).
No need to get a PLL lock for this, just raw level values with a fine frequency stepping and perhaps a (semi) logarithmic level reading.
For me this could help a lot on LNB skew adjusting, for example, as it would be possible, to look for the pola cross talk minimum.
(Same perhaps also possible for position cross talk then.)
Just see what should not be there, between the normal transponders, and adjust for the minimum.
That would in any case be far better than going for the maximum of the sum of all signals, wanted or not...
In analogue days this was easier, like for skew we just had to tune to a transponder, set the polarisation to the wrong state, adjust for minimum picture on the TV screen, done...  
But on DVB-S this can't be done, as long before finding a minimum, you would lose the lock and get no valid readings any more.

However, for an alignment intended spectrum analyser, AGC effects could well be ignored, as we don't need absolute but relative readings (mainly).
Again, just to see what should not be there...

So I am wondering, if some DVB software could be made to work as a fast spectrum analyser, providing the 2D scale by OSD on a HD screen, refreshed every couple of seconds or manually.
Does not have to scan the whole band in one go, a (selectable) fraction covering a group of about 4 to 6 transponders would surely be enough.
[/off-topic]Or is it any possible, to get some value for unwanted signals like cross talk, from our tuners? A sum of all signal components that don't belong to the transponder tuned?

Obviously I am suffering badly, from to many ideas...  :rauch

Best regards

Jürgen

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: moonchild am 16 Dezember, 2011, 21:31

Hi Jack, thanks for mentioning eventghost. I got the Remote Wonder recognized as x10 remote, and was able to map a  couple of buttons to "emulated keyboard" keys. So i should be able to assign remote keys to all keyboard keys mentioned in smartdvb's settings.ini. Alltough eventghost is not quite intiutive to use ;)

Eventghost also came with quite a lot of plugin modules for other dvb apps. Guess those are ment to be used if the application does not work with keyboard keys?

Ati Remote wonder remote came bundled with the all-in one Wonder graphics/tv card, so there should be fast amount of 2nd hand remote's available. I have 2 spares lying around, so could sent you 1 if you are interested.

Might have run into a smartdvb bug too: Even after deleting all channels from the remote channel list, the first new channel i assign to that list is given number "4". Can i reset the counter somewhere?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 17 Dezember, 2011, 13:49

Hi Jurgen. I see, i remember that other app also used seeds (one i think in .cfg) which should be configured per sat i think, so i guess that would be the way to go, or as i said making a seed selection possibile and saving this per satellite should get the most out of the nit then without too much hassle. Would be interesting to know if coverage this way is also kinda complete in europe for all sats, but in any case, i do envision some background NIT thread or whatever then which automagically keeps updating your channel information, including frequencies/ini's etc, or perhaps could also be used for other useful channel information which keeps changing or needs changing on the fly. When i thought about it i remember this seemed the best option instead of a full-nit based app. I never really fully researched this as you notice so any more insights in this is interesting, sounds more useful from your info in europe than i thought in the past. Didn't know about dvb-t, i do know what the atsc system in america (and canada i think) is used totally different there than here, they use it there like some kind of feedhunting ota as there are many stations it seems sending different things out (not as here in europe where at least in holland we just have digittene and one set of channels nationwide)

Well i can't tell you much about low SR sensitivity of my prof 7500 blindscanning (having probs scanning those here, but i think my setup is to blame atm, very windy conditions here lately had to go out and fix things), but i can certainly blindscan 19.2 and 13 in under ten minutes for sure, but there are probably better low sr cards around, although i know lots of american feedhunters use prof 7500 (and tbs) so can't be that bad. Still need to check it's completeness against the .ini tables (will make some sync option or perhaps save blindscan tables to other types of .ini's not sure yet)..

@moonchild: lol i remembered i needed some time with eventghost to figure out the damn thing too :-).  Been long ago but i think eventghost uses plugins to support different kind of remotes. Just looked quickly at the eventghost site and you have plugins/addons for extra remote support, and some kind of plugin (.py python scripts) to automate applications. So when installing a .py script for dvbdream for example made by someone you'd at least have the mappings to dvbdream setup (i see from the .py code he looks up the main dvbdream windows to send keys to, i remember this is also something that needs to be configured in eventghost for the client app to be able to receive the keystrokes .(or winlirc etc is also possible i think as another possibility to use this in smartdvb instead of keys). That's what i meant i want to see if i cannot make those mappings myself and just include such a plugin in the forum or whatever as i already noticed most people won't take the trouble to use a tool like eventghost, too hard to setup, but maybe with some auto-config more people would use this. If you want you can send me the ati rw :-) (you still have my address?) although i can use any remote to test, but i can also look at this X/10 thing as preferrably i'd like smart to support as much as possible natively.

edit: about dvb-t nit scanning, have you tried this only with smart or also other tools? Not sure out of the top of my head if this might even be skipped in smart, not sure would have to check..
oh and i'll check about that ch# bug you're having moonchild, might just be a bug as i think i never removed the list in one time, some things you just forget to test and need to be pointed out..

edit2: didn't have time to read and answer everything before. About that spectrum analyser, have thought about that for the blindscanner in the future, not now. But your sat tech knowledge is better than mine i have more of a programming background so if you know any codebase that would help (in c preferrable, but .net or vb/delphi whatever, as long as i get the picture), as it willl not be high on my priorities but i myself would like something like that if i can make it quickly, otherwise it will take a while. In any case whenever i get around to that i'll have in mind what you said about the fullscreen 2D spectrum analyser, sounds like a feasible idea and would not be that hard to do. And btw, the blinscan interface of crazycat supports some kind of spectrum analysing functions, as in standard bda there are no calls etc for this, just signal/strength etc, you need more info for that i think no? So crazycats dll accesses these cards outside of the bda driver, so directly on the chipsets (which is lots of low level hard programming work also), which is beyond the scope of time i can now invest in these things lol

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 18 Dezember, 2011, 04:57

Regarding NIT on DVB-T, I've not yet found any suitable application, to give it a try.
I'll surely do some research on this soon after the festive days, as those make me stay away from doing severe changes on my system.
Just imagine running into TV related trouble on Christmas or New Years Eve, relatives might kill us for this...

Technical aspects and knowledge of course are a must for me, as I am a certified TV mechanic, and a hobbyist even longer.
Just missing a suitable job right now.
That's one good reason for me now, to make the best out of the hardware at home these days.
And as I don't yet have a sat compatible spectrum analyser here, I'm running into deep thinking mode...

However, a really helpful spectrum analysis might even be impossible with BDA tuners.
Main reason, being on the roof and adjusting LNBs, you would need to have pretty fast sweeps, at least one every couple of seconds.
You could not wait several minutes there, to see the effects of tiny changes. 
But I don't believe, BDA allowed such fast sweeps, without waiting for a lock on every signal, just looking for raw level only, on every little step.

Means, I am preparing to try and get some 2nd hand sat scope sooner or later, off ebay.
Whenever my finances and the rare offers may meet...
I have already seen nice new hand held DVB receivers from Chinese vendors, that are made for this, but I don't like the idea of bargaining with those directly.
And regarding German distributors, if one day found any, usually they really like to rip us off...

We will see, and in case of any progress made, I'll keep you informed here anyway.

But now we should better concentrate on relatives, Christmas holidays and alike, I supose  ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 20 Dezember, 2011, 13:42

@jurgen: Well yes looking at the bda calls available i don't see a possibility for that, alhough one might test what happens when leaving various bda parameters for locking out perhaps dunno. But in any case
don't think this will ever be fast enough in such case through bda for your pursposes with the limited calls available there (would also make no sense for ms to support something like that in a general access architecture i would think also). Although about locking i have noticed that some cards on signal information checking are perfectly happy to report just level/signal and no lock (like my prof7500 works like that, older ss2 couldnt do that for example i remember, so one could imagine just calling the bda get signal routines, getting level asap nevermind about the lock and continue from there and see how fast a sweep like that would be perhaps on such cards with bda, but my guess would be probably not enough).
@richiebie: i totally overlooked the private message from you from a while back (about ci) on this board till now sorry. I looked at that bda.log for your technotrend ci. I don't see any ci messages in the bda.log (of sending pmt) are you sure you have ci processing turned on in the settings (under ci header)? If not try settings this on and the pmt send count to at least 3 or something if things don't work in standard mode..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 20 Dezember, 2011, 17:30

Thx Jackavo for the info. Luckily, I'm right now on vacation in Thailand. Unfortunately, I cannot test anything on my home equipment. But yes, I had CI processing on during my tests. Don't remember what I did with the pmt sending count. Will have to test that after my return to Munich in mid January. Will report on that in due time  :)

Titel: Versuch mit 0.2.1 Beta 5 / kleinere Macke
Beitrag von: kater am 29 Dezember, 2011, 18:26

hab mir gestern die Beta 5 installiert.
Installation war problemlos.
Das scannen der SD Sender auf Astra mit der beigelegten Tansponderliste auch. Allerdings klinkte sich mein Technotrend BDA/DVB-s Device erst beim dritten Versuch ein.
Bei den HD Sendern war das schon besprochene Problem in den Device Settings S2 8PSK irreführen. Warum muß in diesem Programm, obwohl im Fenster neben dem Menü S2 8PSK steht
8VSB gewählt werden. Ist doch total irreführend.
Noch ein Problem mit dem EPG tritt bei mir auf. Das EPG startet über den Button (tolles übersichtliches EPG). Wenn ich es mit dem erneuten drücken des Buttons beenden will geht Smart DVB fest. Kein Bild im Fenster, Senderliste leer und Grfikfehler im Fenster. Beenden, Neustart und dann gehts wieder. Wenn ich ner Falschbedienung aufgesessen bin dann wäre ich über einen Tip dankbar
Ansonsten läuft es stabil. SD sowieso und HD mit Cyberlink9 und dem Overlay.
Achtung, in den Filter Settings des Cyberlink war Force Bob gewählt. Auto select ist die richtige Wahl.

Titel: Re: Versuch mit 0.2.1 Beta 5 / kleinere Macke
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 29 Dezember, 2011, 19:13

Zitat

Wenn ich es mit dem erneuten drücken des Buttons beenden will geht Smart DVB fest. Kein Bild im Fenster, Senderliste leer und Grfikfehler im Fenster. Beenden, Neustart und dann gehts wieder.

Hab ich hier nicht ...aber da du was von Grafikfehler schreibst ...evtl. liegts am Overlay Renderer ...probiers doch mal mit dem EVR oder VMR9 ...

Titel: Re: Versuch mit 0.2.1 Beta 5 / kleinere Macke
Beitrag von: kater am 29 Dezember, 2011, 19:48

hi Sil. Du hast recht, der Renderer beeinflusst das EPG. Am besten gehts mit VMR9. EVR geht gar nicht (XP?). Aber leider produziert nur Overlay ein fehlerfreies HD Bild.
Mit Grafikfehler mein ich, der gesammte Aufbau des Smart Fensters ist durcheinander. Ist halt fest.
Mal sehen ob andere Codecs was ändern. Hab noch den CoreAV und den DivXH264 probiert. Das Bild ist, bei höherer Last, auch gut, aber das EPG Problem löst es nicht.
Jetzt hab ich Core und VMR9 ausgewählt und siehe da, im Gegensatz zu Cyberlin9 und VMR9 ist das Bild stabil und EPG funktioniert auch. Mal weiter beobachten.

Titel: Re: Versuch mit 0.2.1 Beta 5 / kleinere Macke
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 29 Dezember, 2011, 19:51

Zitat

EVR geht gar nicht (XP?)

Doch ...wenn man nen akttuelles .Net Framework auf der Kiste installiert hat ;)

Zitat

etzt hab ich Core und VMR9 ausgewählt und siehe da, im Gegensatz zu Cyberlin9 und VMR9 ist das Bild stabil und EPG funktioniert auch.

Schön :)

Ist evtl. ein Ati Problem in Verbindung mit dem 9er Cyberlink.... evtl. würde auch ein Update auf Cyberlink 10 oder 11 helfen ...

Titel: Re: Versuch mit 0.2.1 Beta 5 / kleinere Macke
Beitrag von: kater am 29 Dezember, 2011, 20:06

hab hier NetFrame 4 Extendet und NetFrame 4 Client Profile.
Mit dem Update muß ich probieren.

Titel: Re: Versuch mit 0.2.1 Beta 5 / kleinere Macke
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 29 Dezember, 2011, 20:10

Ah...hab nochmal Tante Google gefagt ... .NET Framework 3.0 muss es sein

Titel: Re: Versuch mit 0.2.1 Beta 5 / kleinere Macke
Beitrag von: kater am 30 Dezember, 2011, 20:30

hm, die entsrechenden Codecs für 10 oder 11 gestalten sich ja zu einem Problem. Beim DVB Suppen Center wollen die für das neuste Packs ne Aktivierungsnummer. Aus dem Trial kann man auch nichts mehr extrahieren (sagt Google) weil nicht vorhanden. Die hochwertigen Sachen nur in der Kaufversion.  :hmm

Titel: Re: Versuch mit 0.2.1 Beta 5 / kleinere Macke
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 30 Dezember, 2011, 21:00

hast PM ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 10 Januar, 2012, 14:20

hi guys. Silencer i've send you (and some others) here the latest test build, quite some changes again, blindscanner added but stil some problems there with testers and some cards (may also be latest streamreader.dll bugs i've heard from other developers). If anyone else wants the test link let me know (i've sent it to some here but i might have missed someone as i'm in the process of switching mail programs)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 10 Januar, 2012, 16:55

Hi jackjavo  ...thx :)

i will look at it the next days ...but i don ´t have a card to test blindscanning ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 11 Januar, 2012, 16:02

hi silencer. No problem, there are many other things to test :). Btw if you still have to start wait until i put up the next update before testing, users have reported some problems just so you don't run into things that are already changed.. i'll give you a signal lateron..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 11 Januar, 2012, 19:40

Zitat

Btw if you still have to start wait until i put up the next update before testing, users have reported some problems just so you don't run into things that are already changed..

Ok

Zitat

i'll give you a signal lateron..

that would be nice :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Dragonix am 11 Januar, 2012, 22:21

Zitat von: jackjavo am 08 Dezember, 2011, 11:54

@dragonix: hi and thanks. You should be able to hear radio channels without issues, if you can view video/audio there's nothing wrong with your codec setup etc. You mention the video codecs (cyberlink) for radio, but with radio channels only the audio decoder ir involved (ffdshow also has audio decoder ofcourse) You could try using ac3filter as audio decoder for audio (if you're not already using that) and make sure you have no extra options selected (especially perhaps the 'null filter' is not selected in osd settings as that has caused some problems with audio in the past).
Oh yes and the record all audio tracks on scheduled records is something i forgot, it has been requested quite some time so i will add it in the coming time..

Update:
With the "new" Beta (5) radio is working flawlessly :)

And a little bug (don't know if it's worth fixing): When you edit a record task, SmartDVB deletes the "Days" Selection. Example: I schedule a record for 8.15, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri. Now I want to change the start time to 8.20. So I open the scheduler, click on the "edit task" button, and voila, only monday is selected and I have to redo the "Days" selection. Don't know if it's worth fixing (or perhaps is it even a feature, and not a bug ;)?), but it's something I was wondering about..

Thanks for your great DVB App!!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 11 Januar, 2012, 22:45

@silencer: you should have mail now if all's right..
@dragonix: oh don't think that's a feature, also don't think i would have made it that way so ill for sure check that thanks!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 11 Januar, 2012, 23:05

@moonchild: i recently looked at this remote thing of you and realised the issue is different. What is happening you are removing the remote mappings let's say but that does not change the internal ch# again (in the channel properties, this is what is used to sort/show the channels in the remote list). Maybe i should just do this, although i probably at that time thought it would not be prudent as this can be a lot of work to reset again (let's say you have assigned like 200 channel numbers) if you don't realise what you do :-). So perhaps a special popup menu option like 'reset remote channel numbers #' or something?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 14 Januar, 2012, 16:20

hiho , here are the ´first look´ Results for the ´prerctest3´ Version : Looks pretty good under Windows 7 x64 SP1 ...Streaming, recording, epg ... fine ...and it looks like that all issues from the beta are gone ...

Results for XP Sp3 will follow tomorrow ;)

btw. i noticed the same issue with the sheduler as Dragonix ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 15 Januar, 2012, 09:45

ok , under xp sp3 its looks good too ... still have a very short while a flickering screen on channel change or when changing beetween main window and the floating one when using vmr 9... but its really very short and i can live with it ...

other things looks fine...also in multi monitor mode ...will do more tests these days (if i have time for this) on win 7 & xp sp3  ... and write if i find something ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 16 Januar, 2012, 20:11

Hi silencer. Thanks for the testing, especially XP as i know you're a thourough tester that's very good to know!. Indeed it seems to be going well now so will just fix some things in the blindscanner and also look at those scheduler problems (i also noticed something going wrong with the weekly recording per day must be something introduced so that also will be looked at. thanks again guys for all the testing these past times..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 16 Januar, 2012, 20:31

Hi JackJavo, just got back from my holidays.

Getting back on the Technotrend CI/CAM issue what are the meanings of this line in my bda log?

Zitat

21:16:48 5398 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
21:16:48 5398 - Technotrend:    CI text  :21:16:48 5398 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
21:16:48 5398 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
21:16:48 5398 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833

It looks to me as if he recognizes that I have a CI attached and a Cam inserted but of course I might be wrong...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 17 Januar, 2012, 00:10

I don't think so.

That three IDs usually are to be found on a station, that supports two different Nagra crypt versions. One of those would be used by the latest card version, the two others by a special card for older receivers, for compatibility issues.
I will not go deeper into the issue here, for German legal reasons.

So you find all the available crypt IDs listed here, a real card could chose from. 
I have seen this on many DVB applications before, with my good old Nexus, though I've never had the CI extension here.
Same goes for the SkyStar HD (quite similar to your tuner) in my other machine.
Can't play around with it right now, as I am just changing it's location and constructing some new furniture for it.   
Things will surely need a couple of days more.

Your signature tells, you have a CI ready tuner, and obviously your computer knows about this.
So SmartDVB seems to recognize that port.
And if CI adaptor, CAM and card were attached, things may work indeed.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 17 Januar, 2012, 07:33

Thx Jürgen for the info. If I catched your hint well you are considering that a software add on is causing smartdvb's log lines. Something that I was also considering when I saw the lines in the bda log. Anyway, I had the CI attached to the card and an Alphacrypt card in the CI as well as the Nagra smartcard for SKY. Unfortunately, nothing else than the SKY EPG was descrambled (if the EPG is scrambled at all).

Zitat von: Jürgen am 17 Januar, 2012, 00:10

And if CI adaptor, CAM and card were attached, things may work indeed.

Edit: EPG is not scrambled

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 17 Januar, 2012, 23:16

hi ritschibie. Those messages are from callback from the technotrend api while getting the status of the ci slot (whether it's empty, is ready for action to decode etc). Here's the most recent
bda.dev, i just looked at this code and cleaned it up a bit where i could see things, it should work as it has worked before for technotrend users so maybe something i changed in the meantime.
So smart seems to be accessing the cam. Have you tried settings the pmt send count to 0, which should make it send it all the time just to make sure it's not something that the cam isn't getting any pmt's after the slot status change (if it's getting there at all), so i've inserted some log messges with technotrend_ci_send_pmt in them which should indicate where it get's there at least.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/51980102/bda.dev

thanks for the testing,
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 17 Januar, 2012, 23:22

Thy Jackjavo  :)

Will test it tomorrow with Alphacrypt Light and SKy smartcard and give feedback here.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 18 Januar, 2012, 17:47

Hi jackjavo.

Tried today with the new bda.dev but got no luck. Anyway, the log seems to be more substantial than before. A lot of messages after the "technotrend_ci_send_pmt" call. I've put the logfile hereafter for your kind consideration because the file format is not accepted as an attachment here.

Thx a lot
Ritchie

Code: [Auswählen]

17:20:14 0 - Using standard tuning
17:20:14 15 - StartDevice()  dwDeviceNo:0
17:20:14 15 - >> DeviceGetList
17:20:14 15 - - Filter [TechnoTrend BDA/DVB-S Tuner]
17:20:14 31 - << DeviceGetList
17:20:14 31 - Tunertype 0
17:20:14 31 - Creating graph
17:20:14 46 - BDA Device Name: [TechnoTrend BDA/DVB-S Tuner]      (Tuner Type:0)
17:20:14 46 - Creating end
17:20:14 78 - Creating networkprovider end
17:20:14 93 - TuningSpace Name: 'Antenna'  NetworkType: {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
17:20:14 93 - TuningSpace Name: 'ATSC'  NetworkType: {0DAD2FDD-5FD7-11D3-8F50-00C04F7971E2}
17:20:14 109 - TuningSpace Name: 'ATSCCable'  NetworkType: {0DAD2FDD-5FD7-11D3-8F50-00C04F7971E2}
17:20:14 109 - TuningSpace Name: 'AuxIn1'  NetworkType: {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
17:20:14 124 - TuningSpace Name: 'Cable'  NetworkType: {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
17:20:14 124 - TuningSpace Name: 'Digital Cable'  NetworkType: {143827AB-F77B-498D-81CA-5A007AEC28BF}
17:20:14 124 - TuningSpace Name: 'DVB-T'  NetworkType: {216C62DF-6D7F-4E9A-8571-05F14EDB766A}
17:20:14 140 - TuningSpace Name: 'FM Radio'  NetworkType: {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
17:20:14 140 - TuningSpace Name: 'SMART DVB-S'  NetworkType: {FA4B375A-45B4-4D45-8440-263957B11623}
17:20:14 140 - Enumeration found 9 tuning spaces
17:20:14 140 - Found TuningSpace
17:20:14 156 - loading tuningspace end
17:20:14 156 - init tuningspace end
17:20:14 156 - ConnectFilters: trying connection
17:20:14 171 - Connect Ok
17:20:14 187 - connectfilters networkprovider tuner end
17:20:14 218 - create samplegrabber end
17:20:14 218 - create capture end
17:20:14 218 - ConnectFilters: trying connection
17:20:14 234 - cannot connect tuner filter to sample grabber filter, trying capture
17:20:15 249 - Adding capture filter
17:20:15 249 - ConnectFilters: trying connection
17:20:15 265 - Connect Ok
17:20:15 265 - ConnectFilters: trying connection
17:20:15 280 - Connect Ok
17:20:15 280 - Successfully connected sample grabber to capture
17:20:15 296 - create demuxer end
17:20:15 296 - ConnectFilters: trying connection
17:20:15 312 - Connect Ok
17:20:15 312 - connect sample grabber demuxer end
17:20:15 951 - create tif end
17:20:15 967 - ConnectFilters: trying connection
17:20:15 1154 - Connect Ok
17:20:15 1170 - connect demuxer tif end
17:20:15 1170 - after run
17:20:15 1170 - BDACardType forced to: 22
17:20:15 1185 - GetTunerInterfaces: Pin types (2) :
17:20:15 1185 - GetTunerInterfaces: Pin 0 Type = 0
17:20:15 1185 - GetTunerInterfaces: Pin 1 Type = 1
17:20:15 1201 - GetTunerInterfaces: Node types (2):
17:20:15 1201 - GetTunerInterfaces: Node 0 Type = 0
17:20:15 1201 - GetTunerInterfaces: Node 1 Type = 1
17:20:15 1216 - GetTunerInterfaces: Node interfaces:
17:20:15 1216 - GetTunerInterfaces:    Interfaces on NodeType 0   (4 interfaces):
17:20:16 1232 - GetTunerInterfaces:       {71985F47-1CA1-11D3-9CC8-00C04F7971E0} IID_IBDA_FrequencyFilter  
17:20:16 1248 - GetTunerInterfaces:       {1347D106-CF3A-428A-A5CB-AC0D9A2A4338} IID_IBDA_SignalStatistics  
17:20:16 1248 - GetTunerInterfaces:       {992CF102-49F9-4719-A664-C4F23E2408F4} IID_IBDA_LNBInfo          
17:20:16 1248 - GetTunerInterfaces:       {F84E2AB0-3C6B-45E3-A0FC-8669D4B81F11} Unknown Interface           - QueryInterface FAILED ! - hr = 0x80004002
17:20:16 1263 - GetTunerInterfaces:    Interfaces on NodeType 1   (1 interfaces):
17:20:16 1263 - GetTunerInterfaces:       {EF30F379-985B-4D10-B640-A79D5E04E1E0} IID_IBDA_DigitalDemodulator
17:20:16 1263 - technotrend_init devicetype 1
17:20:16 1263 - device loaded with bdaapiOpenHWIdx
17:20:16 1294 - Technotrend: bdaapiCIGetSlotStatus OK
17:20:16 1294 - StartDevice()    OK
17:20:16 1294 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
17:20:16 1294 -
17:20:16 1294 - Adding filter 0
17:20:16 1294 - Adding filter 18
17:20:16 1294 - Adding filter 102
17:20:16 1294 - Adding filter 767
17:20:16 1294 - Adding filter 768
17:20:16 1294 - Adding filter 1089
17:20:16 1310 - Adding filter 1
17:20:16 1310 - Adding filter 5960
17:20:16 1310 - Removing filter 0
17:20:16 1310 - Adding filter 0
17:20:16 1326 -
17:20:16 1326 - SetTuner() 11798000, H, 27500000   LOF:10600000  22Khz:1
17:20:16 1326 - GetTickCount before BDASetTuner 34865771
17:20:16 1326 - GetTickCount before tune_request 34865771
17:20:16 1326 - tune_request 1 34865771
17:20:16 1341 - tune_request 2 34865786
17:20:16 1341 - Modulation used 20
17:20:16 1341 - tune_request 3 34865786
17:20:16 1341 - GetTickCount before put_tunerequest 34865786
17:20:16 1544 - GetTickCount after put_tunerequest 34865989
17:20:16 1544 - tune_request 4 34865989
17:20:16 1544 - GetTickCount after tune_request 34865989
17:20:16 1544 - GetTickCount after BDASetTuner 34865989
17:20:16 1544 - BDASetTuner Using locktime 5000
17:20:16 1684 - got statistics
17:20:16 1684 - signalocked true breaking
17:20:16 1684 - actual time 140
17:20:16 1684 - Slept 0
17:20:16 1684 - final signal stats: lock 1, present 1, quality 100
17:20:16 1684 - Status: Locked
17:20:16 1684 - Removing filter 8193
17:20:18 3338 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3478 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3478 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3478 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3478 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3478 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3478 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3478 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3478 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3478 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3478 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3588 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3603 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3603 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3603 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3603 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3603 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3603 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3603 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3603 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3603 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3650 - Removing filter 1
17:20:18 3712 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3712 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3712 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3712 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3728 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3728 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3728 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3728 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3728 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3728 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3837 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3837 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3837 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3837 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3837 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3837 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3837 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3837 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3837 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3837 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3962 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3962 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3962 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3962 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3962 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 3962 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 3962 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 3962 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 3962 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 3962 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 4071 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 4071 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 4071 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 4071 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 4071 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 4071 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 4071 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 4071 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 4071 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 4071 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 4180 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 4180 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 4180 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 4180 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 4180 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:18 4180 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:18 4180 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:18 4180 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:18 4180 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:18 4180 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4290 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4290 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4290 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4290 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4290 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4290 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4290 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4290 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4290 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4290 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4399 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4399 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4399 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4399 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4399 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4399 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4399 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4399 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4399 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4399 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4508 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4508 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4508 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4508 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4508 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4508 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4508 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4508 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4508 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4508 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4633 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4633 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4633 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4633 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4633 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4633 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4633 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4633 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4633 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4633 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4742 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4742 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4742 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4742 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4742 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4742 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4742 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4742 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4742 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4742 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4851 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4851 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4851 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4851 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4851 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4851 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4851 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4851 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4851 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4851 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4960 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4960 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4960 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4960 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4960 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 4960 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 4960 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 4960 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 4960 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 4960 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 5070 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 5070 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 5070 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 5070 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 5070 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 5070 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 5070 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 5070 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 5070 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 5070 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 5179 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 5179 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 5179 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 5179 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 5179 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:19 5179 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:19 5179 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:19 5179 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:19 5179 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:19 5179 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5288 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5288 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5288 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5288 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5304 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5304 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5304 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5304 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5304 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5304 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5397 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5397 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5413 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5413 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5413 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5413 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5413 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5413 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5413 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5413 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5506 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5522 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5522 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5522 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5522 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5522 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5522 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5522 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5522 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5522 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5631 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5631 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5631 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5631 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5631 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5631 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5631 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5631 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5631 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5631 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5740 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5740 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5740 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5740 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5740 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5740 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5740 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5740 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5740 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5740 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5850 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5850 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5850 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5850 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5850 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5850 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5850 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5850 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5850 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5865 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5959 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5959 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5959 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5959 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5959 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 5974 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 5974 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 5974 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 5974 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 5974 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 6084 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 6084 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 6084 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 6084 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 6084 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 6084 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 6084 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 6084 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 6084 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 6084 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 6193 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 6193 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 6193 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 6193 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 6193 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:20 6193 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:20 6193 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:20 6193 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:20 6193 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:20 6193 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6302 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6302 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:21 6302 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:21 6302 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:21 6302 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6302 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6302 - Technotrend: slot:0 module inserted
17:20:21 6302 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(1)
17:20:21 6302 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: module inserted but not ready, retrying
17:20:21 6302 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6396 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6411 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6411 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6411 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6411 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6411 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6411 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6411 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6411 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6411 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6411 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6411 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6411 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6411 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6411 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6411 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6411 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6411 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6411 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6427 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6520 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6520 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6520 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6520 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6520 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6520 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6520 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6520 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6520 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6520 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6520 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6520 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6536 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6536 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6536 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6536 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6536 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6536 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6536 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6536 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6536 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6536 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6630 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6630 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6630 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6630 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6645 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6645 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6645 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6645 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6645 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6645 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6645 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6645 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6645 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6645 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6645 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6645 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6645 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6645 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6645 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6645 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6645 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6645 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6754 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6754 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6754 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6754 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6754 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6754 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6754 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6754 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6754 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6754 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6754 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6754 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6754 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6754 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6754 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6754 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6754 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6754 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6754 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6754 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6754 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6770 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6864 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6864 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6864 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6864 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6864 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6864 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6864 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6864 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6864 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6864 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6864 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6879 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6879 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6879 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6879 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6879 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6879 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6879 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6879 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:5
17:20:21 6879 - $ CI: ERROR::SetProgram failed !!! (no CA resource available)
17:20:21 6879 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service not decoded:0 255
17:20:21 6879 - FAILED: property_set_ci_send_pmt()
17:20:21 6988 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 6988 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 6988 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 6988 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 6988 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 6988 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:21 6988 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:21 6988 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:21 6988 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:21 6988 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:21 7098 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 7098 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 7098 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 7098 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 7098 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 7098 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:21 7098 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:21 7098 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:21 7098 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:21 7098 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:21 7207 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:21 7207 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:21 7207 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:21 7207 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:21 7207 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:21 7207 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:21 7207 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:21 7207 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:21 7207 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:21 7207 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 7300 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 7300 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 7316 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 7316 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 7316 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 7316 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7316 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7316 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7316 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7316 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 7394 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 7394 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 7394 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 7394 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 7394 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 7394 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 7410 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 7410 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 7410 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 7410 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 7410 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 7410 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 7425 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 7425 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 7425 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7425 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7425 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7425 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7425 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 7519 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 7519 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 7519 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 7519 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 7519 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 7534 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 7534 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 7534 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 7534 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7534 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7534 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7534 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7534 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 7628 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 7628 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 7628 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 7644 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 7644 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 7644 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 7644 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 7644 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 7644 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7644 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7644 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7644 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7644 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 7737 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 7737 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 7753 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 7753 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 7753 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 7753 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 7753 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 7753 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 7753 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7753 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7753 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7753 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7753 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 7846 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 7862 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 7862 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 7862 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 7862 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 7862 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 7862 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 7862 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 7862 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7862 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7862 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7862 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7862 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 7971 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 7971 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 7971 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 7971 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 7971 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 7971 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 7971 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 7971 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 7971 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7971 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7971 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 7971 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 7971 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 8080 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 8080 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 8080 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 8080 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 8080 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 8080 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 8080 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 8080 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 8080 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 8080 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 8080 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 8080 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 8080 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:22 8190 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:22 8190 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:22 8190 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:22 8190 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:22 8190 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:22 8190 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:22 8190 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:22 8190 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:22 8190 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 8190 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 8190 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:22 8190 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:22 8190 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:23 8299 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:23 8299 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:23 8299 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:23 8299 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:23 8299 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:23 8299 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:23 8299 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:23 8299 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:23 8299 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:23 8299 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:23 8299 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:23 8299 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:23 8299 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:23 8408 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:23 8408 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:23 8408 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:23 8408 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:23 8408 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:23 8408 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:23 8408 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:23 8408 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:23 8408 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:23 8408 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:23 8408 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:23 8424 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:23 8424 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:23 8517 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:23 8517 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:23 8517 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:23 8517 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:23 8517 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:23 8517 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:23 8517 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:23 8517 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:23 8517 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:23 8533 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:23 8533 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:23 8533 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:23 8533 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:23 8626 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: Get CI Slot State
17:20:23 8626 - Technotrend: slot:0 module ok
17:20:23 8626 - Technotrend:    CI status:2
17:20:23 8626 - Technotrend:    CI text  :17:20:23 8626 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1702
17:20:23 8626 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1801
17:20:23 8642 - Technotrend:      ca system id  :1833
17:20:23 8642 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: technotrend_ci_send_pmt:(2)
17:20:23 8642 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:23 8642 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:23 8642 - $ OnCaChange slot:255 reply:14 status:0
17:20:23 8642 - $ CI:    SetProgram OK
17:20:23 8642 - technotrend_ci_send_pmt: service decoded:0 1
17:20:24 9344 - Removing filter 767
17:20:24 9344 - Removing filter 0
17:20:24 9344 - Adding filter 500
17:20:24 9344 - Adding filter 0
17:20:24 9360 - In SetDiseqc
17:20:24 9360 - in senddiseqcdd 1
17:20:24 9360 - in senddiseqcdd 2
17:20:24 9360 - in senddiseqcdd 3
17:20:24 9360 - in senddiseqcdd 4
17:20:24 9360 - SendDiseqc()  E0 10 38 F3  Len:4
17:20:24 9625 - In SetDiseqc
17:20:24 9625 - in senddiseqcdd 1
17:20:24 9625 - in senddiseqcdd 2
17:20:24 9625 - in senddiseqcdd 3
17:20:24 9640 - in senddiseqcdd 4
17:20:24 9640 - SendDiseqc()  E0 10 38 F7  Len:4
17:20:24 9890 -
17:20:24 9906 - SetTuner() 11836000, H, 27500000   LOF:10600000  22Khz:1
17:20:24 9906 - GetTickCount before BDASetTuner 34874351
17:20:24 9906 - GetTickCount before tune_request 34874351
17:20:24 9906 - tune_request 1 34874351
17:20:24 9906 - tune_request 2 34874351
17:20:24 9906 - Modulation used 20
17:20:24 9906 - tune_request 3 34874351
17:20:24 9906 - GetTickCount before put_tunerequest 34874351
17:20:24 10108 - GetTickCount after put_tunerequest 34874553
17:20:24 10108 - tune_request 4 34874553
17:20:24 10108 - GetTickCount after tune_request 34874553
17:20:24 10108 - GetTickCount after BDASetTuner 34874553
17:20:24 10108 - BDASetTuner Using locktime 5000
17:20:25 10249 - got statistics
17:20:25 10249 - signalocked true breaking
17:20:25 10249 - actual time 125
17:20:25 10249 - Slept 0
17:20:25 10249 - final signal stats: lock 1, present 1, quality 100
17:20:25 10249 - Status: Locked
17:20:25 10249 - Removing filter 8193
17:20:25 10249 - Adding filter 202
17:20:25 10249 - Adding filter 201
17:20:35 20389 - Removing filter 201
17:20:35 20389 - Removing filter 202
17:20:35 20389 - Removing filter 500
17:20:35 20389 - Removing filter 0
17:20:35 20389 - Adding filter 101
17:20:35 20389 - Adding filter 0
17:20:35 20404 - In SetDiseqc
17:20:35 20404 - in senddiseqcdd 1
17:20:35 20404 - in senddiseqcdd 2
17:20:35 20404 - in senddiseqcdd 3
17:20:35 20404 - in senddiseqcdd 4
17:20:35 20404 - SendDiseqc()  E0 10 38 F3  Len:4
17:20:35 20670 - In SetDiseqc
17:20:35 20670 - in senddiseqcdd 1
17:20:35 20670 - in senddiseqcdd 2
17:20:35 20670 - in senddiseqcdd 3
17:20:35 20670 - in senddiseqcdd 4
17:20:35 20670 - SendDiseqc()  E0 10 38 F7  Len:4
17:20:35 20935 -
17:20:35 20935 - SetTuner() 11798000, H, 27500000   LOF:10600000  22Khz:1
17:20:35 20935 - GetTickCount before BDASetTuner 34885380
17:20:35 20935 - GetTickCount before tune_request 34885380
17:20:35 20935 - tune_request 1 34885380
17:20:35 20935 - tune_request 2 34885380
17:20:35 20935 - Modulation used 20
17:20:35 20935 - tune_request 3 34885380
17:20:35 20935 - GetTickCount before put_tunerequest 34885380
17:20:35 21153 - GetTickCount after put_tunerequest 34885598
17:20:35 21153 - tune_request 4 34885598
17:20:35 21153 - GetTickCount after tune_request 34885598
17:20:35 21153 - GetTickCount after BDASetTuner 34885598
17:20:35 21153 - BDASetTuner Using locktime 5000
17:20:36 21247 - got statistics
17:20:36 21450 - got statistics
17:20:36 21652 - got statistics
17:20:36 21855 - got statistics
17:20:36 22058 - got statistics
17:20:37 22261 - got statistics
17:20:37 22464 - got statistics
17:20:37 22666 - got statistics
17:20:37 22854 - got statistics
17:20:37 23056 - got statistics
17:20:38 23259 - got statistics
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17:20:38 23868 - got statistics
17:20:38 24071 - got statistics
17:20:39 24273 - got statistics
17:20:39 24461 - got statistics
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17:20:39 24866 - got statistics
17:20:39 25069 - got statistics
17:20:40 25272 - got statistics
17:20:40 25475 - got statistics
17:20:40 25677 - got statistics
17:20:40 25880 - got statistics
17:20:40 26083 - got statistics
17:20:41 26286 - got statistics
17:20:41 26286 - actual time 5133
17:20:41 26286 - Slept 2500
17:20:41 26286 - final signal stats: lock 0, present 0, quality 0
17:20:41 26286 - Status: No lock
17:20:41 26489 -
17:20:41 26489 - SetTuner() 11798000, H, 27500000   LOF:10600000  22Khz:1
17:20:41 26489 - GetTickCount before BDASetTuner 34890934
17:20:41 26489 - GetTickCount before tune_request 34890934
17:20:41 26489 - tune_request 1 34890934
17:20:41 26489 - tune_request 2 34890934
17:20:41 26489 - Modulation used 20
17:20:41 26489 - tune_request 3 34890934
17:20:41 26489 - GetTickCount before put_tunerequest 34890934
17:20:41 26645 - GetTickCount after put_tunerequest 34891090
17:20:41 26645 - tune_request 4 34891090
17:20:41 26645 - GetTickCount after tune_request 34891090
17:20:41 26645 - GetTickCount after BDASetTuner 34891090
17:20:41 26645 - BDASetTuner Using locktime 5000
17:20:41 26754 - got statistics
17:20:41 26957 - got statistics
17:20:41 27159 - got statistics
17:20:42 27362 - got statistics
17:20:42 27549 - got statistics
17:20:42 27752 - got statistics
17:20:42 27955 - got statistics
17:20:42 28158 - got statistics
17:20:43 28361 - got statistics
17:20:43 28563 - got statistics
17:20:43 28766 - got statistics
17:20:43 28969 - got statistics
17:20:43 29172 - got statistics
17:20:44 29359 - got statistics
17:20:44 29562 - got statistics
17:20:44 29765 - got statistics
17:20:44 29967 - got statistics
17:20:44 30170 - got statistics
17:20:45 30373 - got statistics
17:20:45 30576 - got statistics
17:20:45 30779 - got statistics
17:20:45 30779 - Tuning cancelled
17:20:46 31527 - Removing filter 101
17:20:46 31527 - Removing filter 0
17:20:46 31527 - Adding filter 101
17:20:46 31527 - Adding filter 0
17:20:46 31543 - In SetDiseqc
17:20:46 31543 - in senddiseqcdd 1
17:20:46 31543 - in senddiseqcdd 2
17:20:46 31543 - in senddiseqcdd 3
17:20:46 31543 - in senddiseqcdd 4
17:20:46 31543 - SendDiseqc()  E0 10 38 F3  Len:4
17:20:46 31808 - In SetDiseqc
17:20:46 31808 - in senddiseqcdd 1
17:20:46 31808 - in senddiseqcdd 2
17:20:46 31808 - in senddiseqcdd 3
17:20:46 31808 - in senddiseqcdd 4
17:20:46 31808 - SendDiseqc()  E0 10 38 F7  Len:4
17:20:46 32073 -
17:20:46 32073 - SetTuner() 11798000, H, 27500000   LOF:10600000  22Khz:1
17:20:46 32073 - GetTickCount before BDASetTuner 34896518
17:20:46 32073 - GetTickCount before tune_request 34896518
17:20:46 32073 - tune_request 1 34896518
17:20:46 32073 - tune_request 2 34896518
17:20:46 32073 - Modulation used 20
17:20:46 32073 - tune_request 3 34896518
17:20:46 32089 - GetTickCount before put_tunerequest 34896534
17:20:47 32276 - GetTickCount after put_tunerequest 34896721
17:20:47 32276 - tune_request 4 34896721
17:20:47 32276 - GetTickCount after tune_request 34896721
17:20:47 32276 - GetTickCount after BDASetTuner 34896721
17:20:47 32276 - BDASetTuner Using locktime 5000
17:20:47 32385 - got statistics
17:20:47 32573 - got statistics
17:20:47 32775 - got statistics
17:20:47 32978 - got statistics
17:20:47 33181 - got statistics
17:20:48 33384 - got statistics
17:20:48 33587 - got statistics
17:20:48 33789 - got statistics
17:20:48 33992 - got statistics
17:20:48 34195 - got statistics
17:20:49 34398 - got statistics
17:20:49 34601 - got statistics
17:20:49 34803 - got statistics
17:20:49 35006 - got statistics
17:20:49 35006 - Tuning cancelled
17:20:50 35755 - Removing filter 512
17:20:50 35755 - Removing filter 101
17:20:50 35755 - Removing filter 0
17:20:50 35755 - Adding filter 101
17:20:50 35755 - Adding filter 0
17:20:50 35771 - In SetDiseqc
17:20:50 35771 - in senddiseqcdd 1
17:20:50 35771 - in senddiseqcdd 2
17:20:50 35771 - in senddiseqcdd 3
17:20:50 35771 - in senddiseqcdd 4
17:20:50 35771 - SendDiseqc()  E0 10 38 F3  Len:4
17:20:50 36036 - In SetDiseqc
17:20:50 36036 - in senddiseqcdd 1
17:20:50 36036 - in senddiseqcdd 2
17:20:50 36036 - in senddiseqcdd 3
17:20:50 36036 - in senddiseqcdd 4
17:20:50 36036 - SendDiseqc()  E0 10 38 F7  Len:4
17:20:51 36301 -
17:20:51 36301 - SetTuner() 11797000, H, 27500000   LOF:10600000  22Khz:1
17:20:51 36301 - GetTickCount before BDASetTuner 34900746
17:20:51 36301 - GetTickCount before tune_request 34900746
17:20:51 36301 - tune_request 1 34900746
17:20:51 36301 - tune_request 2 34900746
17:20:51 36301 - Modulation used 20
17:20:51 36301 - tune_request 3 34900746
17:20:51 36317 - GetTickCount before put_tunerequest 34900762
17:20:51 36504 - GetTickCount after put_tunerequest 34900949
17:20:51 36504 - tune_request 4 34900949
17:20:51 36504 - GetTickCount after tune_request 34900949
17:20:51 36504 - GetTickCount after BDASetTuner 34900949
17:20:51 36504 - BDASetTuner Using locktime 5000
17:20:51 36613 - got statistics
17:20:51 36816 - got statistics
17:20:51 37003 - got statistics
17:20:51 37206 - got statistics
17:20:52 37409 - got statistics
17:20:52 37611 - got statistics
17:20:52 37814 - got statistics
17:20:52 38017 - got statistics
17:20:52 38220 - got statistics
17:20:53 38423 - got statistics
17:20:53 38625 - got statistics
17:20:53 38828 - got statistics
17:20:53 39031 - got statistics
17:20:53 39234 - got statistics
17:20:54 39437 - got statistics
17:20:54 39639 - got statistics
17:20:54 39842 - got statistics
17:20:54 40029 - got statistics
17:20:55 40232 - got statistics
17:20:55 40435 - got statistics
17:20:55 40638 - got statistics
17:20:55 40841 - got statistics
17:20:55 41043 - got statistics
17:20:56 41246 - got statistics
17:20:56 41449 - got statistics
17:20:56 41652 - got statistics
17:20:56 41652 - actual time 5148
17:20:56 41652 - Slept 2500
17:20:56 41652 - final signal stats: lock 0, present 0, quality 0
17:20:56 41652 - Status: No lock
17:20:56 41855 -
17:20:56 41855 - SetTuner() 11797000, H, 27500000   LOF:10600000  22Khz:1
17:20:56 41855 - GetTickCount before BDASetTuner 34906300
17:20:56 41855 - GetTickCount before tune_request 34906300
17:20:56 41855 - tune_request 1 34906300
17:20:56 41855 - tune_request 2 34906300
17:20:56 41855 - Modulation used 20
17:20:56 41855 - tune_request 3 34906300
17:20:56 41855 - GetTickCount before put_tunerequest 34906300
17:20:56 42026 - GetTickCount after put_tunerequest 34906471
17:20:56 42026 - tune_request 4 34906471
17:20:56 42026 - GetTickCount after tune_request 34906471
17:20:56 42026 - GetTickCount after BDASetTuner 34906471
17:20:56 42026 - BDASetTuner Using locktime 5000
17:20:56 42135 - got statistics
17:20:57 42338 - got statistics
17:20:57 42525 - got statistics
17:20:57 42728 - got statistics
17:20:57 42931 - got statistics
17:20:57 43134 - got statistics
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17:20:58 43539 - got statistics
17:20:58 43742 - got statistics
17:20:58 43945 - got statistics
17:20:58 44148 - got statistics
17:20:59 44351 - got statistics
17:20:59 44553 - got statistics
17:20:59 44741 - got statistics
17:20:59 44943 - got statistics
17:20:59 45146 - got statistics
17:21:00 45349 - got statistics
17:21:00 45552 - got statistics
17:21:00 45755 - got statistics
17:21:00 45957 - got statistics
17:21:00 46160 - got statistics
17:21:01 46363 - got statistics
17:21:01 46566 - got statistics
17:21:01 46769 - got statistics
17:21:01 46971 - got statistics
17:21:01 47174 - got statistics
17:21:01 47174 - actual time 5148
17:21:01 47174 - Slept 2500
17:21:01 47174 - final signal stats: lock 0, present 0, quality 0
17:21:01 47174 - Status: No lock
17:21:02 47377 -
17:21:02 47377 - SetTuner() 11797000, H, 27500000   LOF:10600000  22Khz:1
17:21:02 47377 - GetTickCount before BDASetTuner 34911822
17:21:02 47377 - GetTickCount before tune_request 34911822
17:21:02 47377 - tune_request 1 34911822
17:21:02 47377 - tune_request 2 34911822
17:21:02 47377 - Modulation used 20
17:21:02 47393 - tune_request 3 34911838
17:21:02 47393 - GetTickCount before put_tunerequest 34911838
17:21:02 47595 - GetTickCount after put_tunerequest 34912040
17:21:02 47595 - tune_request 4 34912040
17:21:02 47595 - GetTickCount after tune_request 34912040
17:21:02 47595 - GetTickCount after BDASetTuner 34912040
17:21:02 47595 - BDASetTuner Using locktime 5000
17:21:02 47705 - got statistics
17:21:02 47907 - got statistics
17:21:02 48110 - got statistics
17:21:03 48313 - got statistics
17:21:03 48516 - got statistics
17:21:03 48719 - got statistics
17:21:03 48906 - got statistics
17:21:03 49109 - got statistics
17:21:04 49311 - got statistics
17:21:04 49514 - got statistics
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17:21:04 50123 - got statistics
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17:21:07 52728 - Slept 2500
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17:21:08 54101 - BDACleanup 1
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17:21:08 54101 - free_graph releasing rot 34918546
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17:21:08 54101 - free_graph releasing mediacontrol 34918546
17:21:08 54101 - free_graph done 34918546
17:21:08 54101 - BDACleanup 8
17:21:08 54101 - BDACleanup 10 before ftlNetworkProviderDirect 34918546
17:21:08 54101 - BDACleanup 9 before deleting networkprovider instance 34918546
17:21:08 54101 - BDACleanup 11 before deleting callback 34918546
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17:21:08 54116 - BDACleanup 13 after freeing graph 34918561
17:21:08 54116 - BDACleanup end

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 18 Januar, 2012, 21:07

hi richiebie: thanks, at least we're getting somewhere, it's almost sending the pmt it seems. Did you try a reset inbetween (ci settings menu reset ci, not sure if that works, but read that a reset could be
in order if such errors happen too much). So maybe you can test a reset, and if not i'll try to update the code coming evening to include a reset on too many errors...
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 18 Januar, 2012, 21:18

Indeed, I tried a reset of the Cam: it produced a "CAm reset Failed" message... :'(

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 18 Januar, 2012, 22:58

hi ritschibie: thanks, i'm reviewing this now. Made some changes to ci handling in smart and also the reset code, made it simpler to see if it now works.. I see the cam in the end is actually sending the pmt correctly it just takes some time it seems. So maybe the problems lie elsewhere hence the changes in smart also, changed some timings in the cithread which handles sending ci's, as they were rather low (minimum delay between send_pmt calls, you have any idea what would be adequate here, milliseconds or seconds ? Anyways, i'll send you a pm with the links here as i also changed the exe you might need the install too then not sure. I'll also put a link to the files if you don't have the time to reinstall etc.  If not remember to send the bda.log after doing a failed cam reset.
btw: i sent you a pm, but don't see it in any outbox or whatever (first time i send one here), so hope it's there :-). Oh and you could also try setting the pmt send count back to 1-3 as that should work better, as it's starting to send pmt's seeing the logs..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 18 Januar, 2012, 23:29

hi jackjavo, received the pm: thx! Today I'm gonna go to bed in about half an hour so, no chance for installing that all. Will try tomorrow to reinstall the whole thing with new files. I'm right now downloading them from dropbox  ;)

Will keep you informed!

Ritchie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 19 Januar, 2012, 18:32

Hi Jackjavo:

:mekka Full Success  :mekka

Yesterday I downloaded the files from dropbox, made a new directory "smartdvbtest", unzipped the files,  copied the smartdvb exe and the bda files into the new directory and started smartdvb from there. A first channel scan left most of the HD channels out. Today I inserted the Alphacrypt module and the Sky Nagra 3.0 smartcard into the Technotrend CI slot. Started the program and scanned Astra again - voila, I had the missing HD channels. Then I moved to the SKY channels (after testing  "das erste HD") and: each and everyone of the crypted channels opened.

I had to fumble around with the audio tuning until I found near the volume control the selection for the audio system (AC3 deutsch, etc.). If you want any further information, I'm here to try to give them. Thx a lot again  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 19 Januar, 2012, 23:45

hi ritschibie  ;D Well i'm surprised too, i thought it would be harder or some specific problem with your cam/card, is the channel loading fast or much slower compared to other non-cam crypted channels for example (just wondering because of those delays)?. But i'd still like to know if the reset works? As this might be needed, perhaps also on other tt cards, and i'd still like to add some auto-reset after a couple of errors there if he reset works okay? Oh you can also change the audio easily in the channel properties window, just use the elemetary streams audio comobox. And in the scanner settings you can set your preferred scan languages, just make sure it uses the same 3 letter characters you se in the channel properties (in the audio combobox there). I might also add some option for this outside of the scanner in the future to autoselect some preferred languages without needing to rescan or change channel audio settings (some users mentioned this in the past).

:-) you too thanks for keeping up the testing for so long (always difficult to debug these things if you dont have it and lots of users give up after a couple of rounds (i guess they go use some other player))..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 20 Januar, 2012, 00:21

Hi jackjavo,

indeed, the loading of non camcrypted prgrams is faster in my experience but not much faster (in secs I would give 1 sec + for camcrypted ones). If you mean the cam reset, yes it works (under "tools\settings\CI\Reset Cam"). BTW I had to put the PMT send count to 3 to get the changing of channels running. With the pmt send count on 0 i got no reaction (picture) on changing channels.

The audio is perfect like this. It allows you to change from german to the english original on most of the SKY Cinema films! Only if the english soundtrack is not included you might have to change to get a sound.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 20 Januar, 2012, 11:11

Hi jackjavo,

Yesterday I started testing the "record" functionality. Randomly I have chosen Cinema HD in the SKY pack. Pushed the "rec" knob and on the sidebar "3 hours". Then I selected "shutdown" in the relevant field. In the morning the PC was still running and the recording was "on". Got over 15 GB data  :)

Is this only happening to me? Am I using the record knob in a wrong way?

Maybe somebody on the board using smartdvb can test this function on his system and report?

BTW: Recording in HDTV was flawless  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 20 Januar, 2012, 14:37

hi ritschibie,

Yes i meant the tt cam reset, had never worked before i  think so good to have this verified. Well i had had a thought recently of maybe just adding a toolbar button for audio selection also, might be handier (i'll keep the icon too, it was there also before only smaller :-). Oh and thanks for reporting that timer problem, i think this is just an oversight (never used that much myself) in that it will work when you select it without starting the record first but not if you select the timer option after having started the record manually yourself, i'll also set the timer in such case then hopefully that's all that's needed here (i did test the shutdown etc functionality itself and that should work as long as it gets there)..
edit: i've sent you a link again with a fix for this hopefully (even tested it once).
edit2: oh and btw did you also try setting the pmt count to 1 and did that work or not? I can imagine that would be faster, depending on what these cams do on multiple pmt sending (i hope they're clever enough to detect the same pmt entering if already set (or do cams differ in operation with this? Asking as you say sending the pmt continually doesn't work and i'm wondering if this is a smartdvb problem or a cam problem)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 21 Januar, 2012, 12:29

Hi jackjavo,

Sorry for not answering your questions asap but yesterday in the early evening Munich experienced heavy snowfall and the dish was several times blocked for signals  :(

Concerning the tt cam reset I should report more precisely: I called the function (under tools/settings/CI) and pressed "Cam reset". Instead of getting the usual message "Cam reset failed" it seemed like it worked. I then pushed the "ok" button and the program continued normally but I could'nt see any difference pushing the button meaning that I could not check the functionality of this button!

One thing I could check yesterday was the time setting in the recording function. As you advised, I first selected 1:30 h recording time then "shut down". It worked (incl shut down) but the recorded file showed 0 bytes. Could you pls check that? I rechecked and had the same result after 0:30 h recording time.

Will test again.

Ritchie

edit: Yes, I tried the pmt send on "1" but that seems to harden channel change. I returned to "3" and with that setting I have no channel change difficulty.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 21 Januar, 2012, 20:36

Hi jackjavo,

Today I tried to record manually. I wanted to record an afternoon football match on "SKY". I chose the channel and started recording at 15:30 h. Thereafter I minimized SmartDVB to the tray. I forgot to manually stop the recording at 17:20 h. At 18:00 h I wanted to reexpand SmartDVB from the tray (doubleclick). I saw only the picture in the Smart window - no menues! I minimized the program again and...it disappeared! I could only see in the taskmanager that the process was still ongoing.

I don't know if these things happen only when crypted programs are recorded, will test that tonight with recording 2 h of "das Erste" with the program in the tray.

Cheers
Richard

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 21 Januar, 2012, 22:06

hi. quickly looked at this, for ts records with me this doesn't fail. Do you have mpg records on? For me that now does strange things, so that's broken!
so if you have that on it's unstable with that it seems here too! If so turn back ts recording. If you're not using mpg but normal ts, what are your other
recording settings (use guide name or not etc, do you have the new free disk space check on etc??) might be something introduced ofcourse...
thanks for the ci info, i'll see what other report on this coming rc then..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: kater am 21 Januar, 2012, 22:30

hab nun mal PowerDVD 10 installiert. Es ändert an dem EPG Problem nichts.
Bei Nutzung eines Cyberlink Codecs stabiles Bild unter HD hier nur mit Overlay. Allerdings geht dann beim beenden des EPG der DVD Player fest. Benden nur mit Task Manager.
VMR 7 oder 9 bringen ein ruckelndes Bild, daß gelegentlich in Klötzchen zerfällt. EVR funktioniert hier gar nicht.
Gute Ergebnisse bringt allerdings der Core AV Codec. Allerdings mit ca 40-50% CPU Last, was aber nicht stört. Bild ist ausgezeichnet, EPG ist OK.
Fazit, es könnte generell an ATI (oder meiner Version) liegen. Ritschie hat Nvidia und Sil auch. Was Jürgen, jackjavo, moonchild  und Dragonix haben weis ich nicht.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 21 Januar, 2012, 23:30

Yes, jackjavo, I had mpg selected. Changed now to TS recording. This seems flawless (only short blocks recorded). The mpg choice did'nt work at all for me. Will report after a longer recording session (2 hours tomorrow) with TS and crypted streams. Thx for the ts info.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 22 Januar, 2012, 00:07

hi i think i found this finally, was introduced in the check free space indeed :(. I'll send you a link again with this fix. (also tested it with 1 min recordings). Btw you shouldn't really use mpg yet as that does not record all channels correctly (a lot but not all), i have wanted to rewrite that for quite some time as it has some design flaws from the beginning, as it also needs an update to record AC3 which now does not work but is possible with mpg (at that time i didn't bother thinking about that when making the mpg code).
@kater: well i haven't used many ati cards. But i tried cl10 a while back with a newer ati on xp and that also didn't give me HW accel. Maybe you can try cyberlink 9-8 (i didn't go that far when testing as i wasn't testing codecs on xp). I think cl9 should also give accel for older ati cards, maybe even better than the newer ones on xp (not sure about this, but i think your ati is quite older?). Do you have the same problems with other apps btw or only smartdvb? If so would be interesting to know...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: kater am 22 Januar, 2012, 17:13

ich hab hier CL7, CL9 und CL10 probiert. Alle produzieren meist das gleiche Ergebnis. Gutes, stabiles HD Bild nur mit Overlay. Beim beenden des EPG friert Smart meist ein.
Ich vermute, daß es bei dem Zurückschalten des kleinen Vorschaubildes im EPG auf das große Bildschirmfenster zu Problemen kommt.
Dies kann allerdings auch an meiner betagten ATI Graka liegen.
Ich verwende ansonsten noch DVB Viewer und AltDVB. Dort benutze ich auch Overlay als Renderer und die CL Codecs. Ich hab damit die besten Ergebnisse.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 22 Januar, 2012, 18:10

@kater: did you try settings the avc1 mediatype when adding the cyberlink codecs, this can be necessary on xp if i recall correctly. Oh and i also have that freeze with overlay on epg close, so will check (hardly test that anymore as vmr9/evr should also work fine on xp with cyberlink, maybe silencer can give some pointers).

Titel: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 05 Februar, 2012, 08:54

hi guys.
After a little break i've put up the rc version on the smartdvb.net website. Not many changes since last tests here, but the overlay/EPG issue which kater mentioned should be fixed i hope (kater can you verify this).

SmartDVB 0.2.5 rc1 (http://www.smartdvb.net/smartdvb/download/025/SmartDVB025rc1.rar)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 05 Februar, 2012, 17:40

Thx jackjavo :)

Looks fine for me so far  :jo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 05 Februar, 2012, 17:45

Same here - works flawlessly.

Great work! Thank you!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: dada am 05 Februar, 2012, 19:32

also working flawlessly here, thanks!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 05 Februar, 2012, 19:54

ok thanks guys, looks like the release is coming then and i can finally move on to other things (i prefer making new things, but well since the vs 2010 migration smart had been less stable compared to the previous 0.1.5 vs2005 releases i think so i guess it had to be done)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: kater am 05 Februar, 2012, 20:21

zum EPG Problem. Jetzt kann ich aus jedem beliebigen Renderer in Kombination mit jedem Decoder EPG ein und ausschalten.  :jo Smart friert nicht mehr ein.
Allerdings gibt es eine Verzögerung von 5-10 Sek bis das Bild sowohl im kleinen Vorschaufenster (EPG) und nach dem ausschalten des EPG im großen Fenster wieder läuft.
Alles andere funktionierte ja schon vorher.  :D

Sil, vieleicht kannst du das bitte für jackjavo übersetzen.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 05 Februar, 2012, 20:32

@kater: ist schon gut, ich verstehe schon deutsch aber es ist lange her das is es geschrieben habe (hoffe du kannst gut English lesen) :) I'll look into that delay, i didn't see it on my system (only during testing, not in the final release)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 05 Februar, 2012, 20:33

Hi jackjavo,

Thx for the "fresh" version. I had a few issues in getting it to run (some of them imho connected to the DVBViewer Recording Service installed on the PC). After a restart I got the RC1 running. I did a rescan of my 2 sattelites (Astra 19.2 E & Hotbird 13 E). I had no problem tuning in "Das Erste HD" and other Astra channels and the same for "RAI 1, 2, 3". Instead I could not tune in the SKY channels (from CI). Only after setting the "PMT send count" to 3 I got the picture.

Scanning Astra was very quick (total Time 03:10 min) and got me more channels than ever: 1403 in total (931 video, 223 audio and 249 data channels).
Scanning Hotbird was of course less quick (total time 06:44 min) and produced a total of 1926 channels (1396 video, 399 audio and 131 data channels)

I am testing right now the feature of recording a SKY HD (Cinema HD) channel with time setting to 2 hours. Will report this as an edit in this message later on  :)

Edit: omygod, was wondering why I had no file in the "Records" subdirectory! Because I did not change the mpg rec into a TS recording. Will test again on HD with 120 min preset the recording function and give result tomorrow  ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: kater am 05 Februar, 2012, 20:57

nö, nur a little bit.  ;D

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 Februar, 2012, 09:53

oh darn ritschibie ;-) I guess default is mpg when installing, i'll change that to TS ofcourse (was less of an issue back when there were less HD channels i guess).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 06 Februar, 2012, 10:35

No, jackjavo, only the "click & run" boyzz 'n girlzz (like, unfortunately, I am  :embarassed: ) should be harmed by that. Normally, everybody should check that as well as the recording output  ;)

But, there's another one from my side  :wall

I did this time programmed recording on "Cinema HD" yesterday. I clicked on the 2 hours range and forgot about smartdvb. This was around 9 p.m.. At 11:30 p.m. I recalled smartdvb from the tray. The program opened but had kind of a partially frozen picture, no visible menues in the window (which came back by moving around the mouse in the window but, without any functionality meaning that you could click on the "file" menue and nothing happened). Worst thing was that it had not recorded any byte in the dedicated subdirectory "records" of the smartdvb directory. Furthermore, I got no bda.txt file for this trial!

So I'm guessing if this is a "feature" of my CI (but I had not that problem with a previous version of smartdvb) or of my tray "cage" under Vista Ultimate?
I will test again today (afternoon) the recording process on CI system: First with manual recording of about 1 hour, then time programmed for 2 hours.
How can I get a "bda.txt" file for this 2 tests (unfortunately, it made no protocol of my tests yesterday evening)?

greetings
ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 Februar, 2012, 13:25

okay rischibie. Seeing you reported things like this before i think i'll also run some longer recordings tests here then to see if i can reproduce anything like this in debug mode here. Can you perhaps make sure you have the 'reload on freeze' option turned off? I seem to remember seeing stability problems with that turned on a while back so maybe that has to be looked at still. I assume you mean the bda.log, from bda.dev in the devices directory. This would be really odd as that should always be created (are you sure again you're using bda.dev and not bdas.dev, the latter creates bdas.log in the main smartdvb directory (instead of devices dir)).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 06 Februar, 2012, 16:27

Hi jackjavo, yes I had the "reload on freeze" option off. And, I'm so sorry (but shit happens  :embarassed: ), I have also found the recorded clip! This was because I still looked into the "smartdvbtest" directory instead of looking under "program files\smartdvb\records". So the recording problem is mostly solved. The recorded file shows good HD quality but instead of 2 hrs it recorded only 1:28. I'm pretty sure this was because I stopped it earlier when I got the "frozen" smartdvb window.

Anyway, I will test again this evening (a friend is visiting me, so I'll have only time after 21:00) as written below. Sorry again for any inconvenience my distraction might have caused!

Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 Februar, 2012, 23:50

oh okay then :-) i will await ur report ..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 07 Februar, 2012, 21:40

Here I go again....

So, today I tested CI-recording twice:
a) manual recording 1 hour
b) programmed recording 2 hours

a) gave a flawless recording of the "Cinema HD" program this evening
b) programmed recording (2 hrs.; action: quit) produced the same result with quite surprising "side-effects":
I minimized the program. This program (unlike others) is not minimizing to the "normal" tray but get's to "sleep" into the "services" tray (bottom right) I checked (by doubleclicking) after 30 min if the program window was still working properly - yes it did. The picture changed after the next check I did: approx. after 1 hr running. Again I had (after "awakening" it from the tray) a picture but no program menues, status line, etc.. I sent the program again into the tray. 2 minutes later it disappeared completely from the tray but the process (checked via task manager) was still active. The process ended with the two hrs. over and disappeared from the task manager.

Afterwards I checked again the "settings" submenue and unchecked the "send to tray" option. Minimizing the program now reulted in sending the program into that what I understand as the "normal" tray, the one where every open window is minimized central at the bottom of the vista screen (some might have other arrangements  ;)).

I will test tomorrow, if similar things happen to FTA HD programs such as "das erste HD" when I check the box "send to tray" or when it is not checked. Maybe somebody here can test this too?

Jetzt auszugsweise auf deutsch:

Ich habe smartdvb mit der TT 3200 S2 und angehängtem CI-Modul getestet Nah einigem Frickeln und Schrauben am Programm hatte ich keine Probleme, SKY mit dem Alphacrypt light und der Nagra 3 smartcard zu empfangen. Ich hab dann das Verhalten bei "Aufnahme" getestet: Einmal manuell (Start mit dem Aufnahmeknopf, Ende mit Aufnahmeknopf) 1 Stunde lang mit null Problemen (Aufnahme mit TS). Dann habe ich die zeitprogrammierte Aufnahme probiert: auf 2 Stunden eingestellt und als Aktion nach der Aufnahme "quit", also Programm verlassen, gewählt. Das Programm lief ordnungsgemäß was die Aufnahme betrifft durch und stieg auch nach 2 Stunden (genau: 2:00:01,4) aus und produzierte eine fehlerfreie Aufnahme des streams auf "Cinema HD". Merkwürdig war nur, dass es sich in dem "Dienste-Tray" unten rechts minimierte anstatt in die "normale Tray-Leiste unten Mitte. Nach einer Stunde habe ich das Programm von dort "aufgeweckt" und nur noch das TV-Bild im Fenster gesehen. Es fehlten Menue-Leiste, Status-Leiste, Kanalfenster, etc.). Ich hab das Programm dann wieder in den "Tray-Schlaf" geschickt, 2 min. später war es aus dem tray verschwunden und war nur noch im Task-Manager als laufender Prozeß zu finden. Der verschwand dann nach der programmierten Zeit aus dem Task-Manager.

Kann das jemand mittesten? Wichtig ist, dass die Option "minimize to tray" angeixt ist im "Settings"-Untermenü bei "General". Stellt man die nämlich ab, minimiert sich das Fenster wie alle anderen laufenden Programme auch in den Tray unten Mitte. Da habe ich allerdings das entsprechende Verhalten noch nicht getestet.

Danke
Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 07 Februar, 2012, 23:27

hi ritschibie: i'm starting to think this might be some vista related thing, as i've never heard of this before. Just to be clear what do you mean by the services or normal tray and sleep? To my understanding there's just one tray and apps there don't go to sleep or anything alike? I wonder if this is a tray problem or some other vista/window problem which might also occur if not minimizing to the tray but to the normal window icons bar in the middle of the taskbar. I'll test this here on win7 but am unable to test this on vista atm so hopefully others can verify this and perhaps send some logs also (preferrably smartdvb.log as i might see something there or if not try adding debug messages lateron). Btw for later versions i might add some crash log reporting with the possibility of sending mail or ftp whatever to me in such cases as i've seen this is possible atm (i remember nice tools for that in the past for Delphi).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 08 Februar, 2012, 10:48

Sorry, jackjavo, my "computer" english is a wreck!

Normally, when you minimize a program, it should minimize to the taskbar. When you minimize smartdvb and you leave the "minimize to tray" checked, smartdvb enters the tray where the System Icons (like the network, graphics card utility, etc.) are located. This causes under vista ultimate on my PC the described problems. I have to admit that I don't understand why a running program should minimize to the tray where all the System Icons are located and not to the taskbar where all running programs (like firefox, winword, etc.) are located when minimized. Is there any advantage from programmers side to send it to the tray when minimized?

In my case it's simple: I'll just uncheck this option ("send to tray when minimized") given that the tray location destabilizes the program window under my vista ultimate. I tested now the RC1 for more than 10 hours with and without CI functions and: "It's only for tv but I like it!" (credits go to The Rolling Stones)  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 09 Februar, 2012, 01:02

Minimizing to the tray saves task bar space.
This may be important for users, that are working with a multitude of open windows frequently.
Multi tasking junkies, maybe...

The task bar normally uses relatively wide buttons, holding an icon and a part of the window's title each, but a tray element just shows an icon.
Using default settings and a modern FullHD screen, there's room enough for eight to ten task bar buttons, depending on space occupied by tray and quick launch areas.
Any extra task bar button would then cause the others to get reduced in width, up to a maximum number, then force some grouping or another task bar line to be added below.
 
Applications minimized to the tray also are outside of focus management (normally), though they can still either open a popup window or show a message box, if required.
And there is a chance for programme(r)s, to implement some kind of different behaviour for each way of minimizing, like muting audio on one way, but not on the other, for example.
Of course it's necessary, to define which way of minimizing would be used on title bar button / context menu action, or by any other typical GUI element for this.

However, the tray area also provides it's own grouping routine, depending on OS version and settings.
Therefore, it also comes with it's own possible bugs.

[OT]
BTW, Germans aren't used to write all language and country names with a leading capital letter (except for institutions or a few other official names).
Like, it's 'der deutsche Ausdruck' here, meaning 'the German expression'...
Of course it should read like 'my computer English' was a mess, at least.
Hope, native English speakers won't ever feel offended over here, even if nasty Germans occasionally fail on using capitals properly.
By chance, including me.
Be assured, we're all just doing the best we can.
[/OT]

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 09 Februar, 2012, 15:31

[OT]
Thanks, Jürgen for this small but very informative English lesson. Anyway, I tend to be faulty in my German grammar too -
at least from time to time , especially in the busy and time consuming Inet posting :)
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Zitat von: Jürgen am 09 Februar, 2012, 01:02

However, the tray area also provides it's own grouping routine, depending on OS version and settings.
Therefore, it also comes with it's own possible bugs.

Did you try with Win 7 a recording over (at least) one hour. Would be interesting to me:
a: if this is only a Vista phenomena or
b: a possible settings result (whereby I don't even know how I might change the settings of the tray  :embarassed: )

Thx
Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 10 Februar, 2012, 00:07

Zitat

Did you try with Win 7 a recording over (at least) one hour.

Yes, several times.
TS recording to a huge NTFS partition.
No issues found, at all.
Though, I am not using the computer for DVB every day, as my receiver does the job pretty fine, with far less electrical power.
This for, most of the time the computer is off or in some deep sleep mode these days.

Zitat

I don't even know how I might change the settings of the tray

On 7, right click on the Windows clock.
Though, less options than on XP. Like, on XP I could allow or disallow auto grouping of some tray icons and limit the area, if I recall this well.
On my recent machine, the XP part is kept quite minimalistic, as I don't use it to often any more.
My 7 installation also is not totally complete by now, as I am just installing what's really necessary ATM.
An even better machine may come up sooner or later, just a few basic components still missing.
I just don't want to / can't spend to much on those these days. Definitely no retail prices...

Never played around with Vista here. Just give it a try, take a deep look into the context menu items of the tray area.
May well be, the system control or registry provided even more tray options.
Perhaps also check WinFAQ.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 10 Februar, 2012, 10:20

Thx a lot Jürgen for this exhausting answer  :)

I fumbled around a little bit with the tray options but could not find one that really changes the function there (mostly the appearance of symbols).
Will give it another try (hopefully more in depth) soon.

Sorry for further investigating but, during the smartdvb recordings did you send the program "asleep" in the tray?
Minimizing smartdvb to the taskbar resulted in perfect recordings on my PC! No issues in this case.

Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 11 Februar, 2012, 01:37

Zitat von: ritschibie am 10 Februar, 2012, 10:20

Sorry for further investigating but, during the smartdvb recordings did you send the program "asleep" in the tray?

Not yet.
Will try exactly this throughout the few days, with both tuners I have.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 11 Februar, 2012, 15:22

Jürgen, in my Broken English (credit goes to Marianne Faithful) I would say: You Are A Treasure!  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 11 Februar, 2012, 23:54

hi ritschibie. I've looked at the tray code, made some little changes concerning the showing of the main window when clicking the tray icon (doesn't seem to make a difference on win7 but might on vista, not sure ofcourse as i never really used or liked vista myself). I'll send you a pm with an exe  link (can you also perhaps see if the app still works fine, had to reinstall some things so hope all's still fine, just make sure you backup your older smartdvb.exe).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 12 Februar, 2012, 00:41

Well, here are my first quick test results on the tray / task bar minimizing issue:

Minimized to a tray icon, a scheduler controlled .ts recording of slightly above two hours leads to a working file, but SmartDVB exited, even though "At end: nothing" was chosen.
Does not depend on tuner in use, nor on the station / provider.
Did two different tests of same length on each, DVB-S and DVB-T.
I could not find any error logged by SmartDVB or Windows protocols.

Minimized to task bar button instead, everything else as before, also gave a good file, and SmartDVB was still up and running, but video stuttered permanently, until changing the station once.
Also not effected by tuner or station.  

So there seems to be some kind of an after minimisation issue, at the end of a long recording.
Though, could perhaps also be a code / label error involved, on the settings controls.

I will carry on testing, to find more hints and details, and report in full.
But as long recordings seem to be relevant, this will surely need some more time, maybe days...



BTW, another idea resulted from those minimizing thoughts:
Is there a chance, to implement some useful message box and / or context menu functions to the tray icon, or informative icon changes?
For example, during recordings a red or blinking icon, and on mouse over some basic info like duration.
Or along with scheduler action a message box showing actual and next item for some seconds, closing automatically.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 12 Februar, 2012, 20:47

hi,

I've been able to reproduce this strange tray icon behaviour on win7 here even so am going to look at this as it obviously is tray related.

I'll see about adding more informative tray icon information in the future Jurgen, must be possible ofcourse and not that hard (tooltip text changes), but i'll leave it for after the release which i hope will be soon now (have a new win7 system up and running finally). Btw any acamd users here having problems with that? Not used that plugin myself much but i have some reports it seems that it doesn't run well for some, not sure if it's an acamd related thing or smartdvb mdapi problem.

thanks again to my most dedicated testers it seems :-)

jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 13 Februar, 2012, 00:24

Hi jackjavo,

Sorry to state that the new executable is not having any positive effect to the program once it gets into the tray. This time I programmed the timer to 1.30 hrs. Left only the net icons and the antivirus (two essentials on my system) icon in the tray. After one hour not only the smartdvb window was "frozen" but for a few minutes my whole system. It stopped the recording after 1:30 hrs. and the file (HDTV) was clean and without any visible errors but the program window had again disappeared from the tray about 10 min before the end of the recording.

Is that really necessary to send the program to the tray? I did'nt see such an option f.e. in the DVBViewer program.

As far as the signal now showing up, I noticed that on some crypted channels (on some not) I get the message "Wait while the channel is loading". Unfortunately, this message remained in many occasions on the screen even when the channel was loaded and the picture was shown.

I'm still very impressed by the fact that smartdvb is the only free program in this field that I tested which can handle the CI extension. For me being banned from time to tine to look football on my PC this is a big plus!!!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 13 Februar, 2012, 00:47

Strange thing, this tray issue...
Have tried a few short scheduler recordings today, no more than a couple of minutes each, and did not have any trouble, neither minimized to tray, nor to task bar.
But one more try with a duration of more than two hours, minimized to tray, and SmartDVB got closed again, without leaving any trace. File was OK.

Feels if my computer evolved some feminine aspects  :Kopf

However, this is not an urgent issue, would just be nice, to have it fixed one day.
Until then it's pretty simple to get along, just don't minimize for timer recordings.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 13 Februar, 2012, 00:49

hi ritschibie,

I did some more testing today on this tray problem (and you're right it's not a MAJOR problem, but still a bug ofcourse), and i think i'm making progress (it's probably an underlying library problem, as when recording is stopped some interface items are changes ofcourse while the app is still in the tray), so the problems lie there and i'm making progress already but it's late and i'm going to bed, i'll send you an update tomorrow after some more testing so hold off any more testing with the current version). And the wait while the channel is loading has to do probably with the null/stillvideo filter (which you are perhaps inserting, is it set in the directshow settings?). Better not to use this if not needed as it does slow down channel changing and it was only made as a test a while back to perhaps allow better osd access, but in any case the osd will be changed for the next version so i might not put any more effort in that null filter)..
best regards,
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 13 Februar, 2012, 10:27

jurgen & ritschibie : you have pm concerning the tray problem, hopefully with noticeable changes now..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 13 Februar, 2012, 12:14

Thx jackjavo.

Will test it this afternoon with CI and report here.
ritschibie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 13 Februar, 2012, 12:26

As I will be out for the afternoon, my test and report are supposed to follow in the evening.

CU

Jürgen

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 13 Februar, 2012, 18:07

Sorry to state that 2 of 3 tests with recording 2 hrs. of video whilst program is in the tray resulted in the same phenomena as described before. I had the null/still video filters unchecked during these tests.

The first test was unattended the first 1:50 hrs. Ten minutes before the recording should stop, I awakened the program from the tray. No menues were seen and after sending it in the tray again the program disappeared (only the process visible in the task manager). As I had checked the option "quit" the program disappeared from the task manager after the 120 min programmed.

The second test I ran was a bit more attended. I opened every 30 min the program from the tray. Until 1.30 hrs everything was stable, menues and video were functional. Then again, after 1:50 it showed the same effect as in the first test. This time I had the option "none" checked so I had to terminate the prog with the task manager.

Now I'm running the third test to get a better idea when the "mess" begins. In the first hour I'll wake up the program every 30 mins. After that every 10 mins until the 90 min mark. The last 30 mins I'll check every 5 min so to determine more exactly after what period of timed recording the program turns unstable in the tray. Recording began at 5:35 p.m.

Will report the result as an edit to this message.

Edit 1: As expected, after 1 hour no anomalies
Edit 2: After 1:20 no anomalies, after 1:30 (last check) program was unstable. It happens between 1:20 and 1:30. Could it be a memory problem?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 13 Februar, 2012, 21:30

oh okay ritshibie, shame. I did some shorter tests and already saw some instability problems, and for me they got better it seems (less than an hour though). But i'll do some 2+ hours tests then (problem ofcourse here is that i can't program much while running such tests, i hope this isn't some kind of neverending story). I don't think it's a memory problem had not noticed that and i regulary check these things..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 13 Februar, 2012, 22:07

I just hinted at some timeshift issues. But, anyway it is definitely connected to the recording issue. I had the program now running 2:15 hrs in the tray without reocrding and I have no problem at all when I make a call. Next test I'll do (just to better define the cause of the problem) is recording manually over 2 hours. Maybe you can wait with your own test until midnight?

All problems on my PC were - until now - caused by time set recording.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: dada am 13 Februar, 2012, 22:53

I would like to help here. I usually do recordings using the DVBV RS. When I understand correctly, recordings longer than 2 hrs with Smart in the tray create problems like mysteriously Smart disappearing. I will test this tomorrow.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 14 Februar, 2012, 00:24

hi well yes it happened here too again, but this time after 2:15 hours of recordings the smartdvb window was gone, and in the log i see no indication of what happened, no cleanup code whatsoever just a dissapeared smartdvb, very odd. I will need to look better at this then (didn't read your reply ritshibie as i went to do other things after starting the recording)...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 14 Februar, 2012, 01:22

RAM should not be an issue, as I have 8 GB in here.
And no other application is effected, even if SmartDVB runs into trouble.
Just tested with WMP and a FullHD .ts file in exactly that situation, worked well.
So also other multimedia functions aren't touched at all.

However, the new executable did not really solve the tray issue, but it changed it in a strange way here.

First try with a recording (starting 5min ahead and lasting 1h 5min) made a cmd window appear for fractions of a second, exactly the moment the recording was supposed to start. It did not allow  to read anything in there, as it closed automatically.
Recording worked for around half an hour, then opened a floating video in the upper left corner in the foreground, with recording related OSD info inside, that froze at once and could be wiped out by moving any other window.
The file recorded ended exactly at that moment, as I found out later.
However, I did not interfere until the scheduler would have finished normally, to give it a chance.
Afterwards I re-opened the SmartDVB window, and it was fully functional.

So I decided to do a second test, without restarting the computer, scheduled to start after 5min and then run for 2h 10min.
This time no CMD popup to be noticed.
After 34 minutes the floating video reappeared as before.
This time I opened the SmartDVB window, that seemed to work normally, and minimized to tray again.
Another floating video window appeared at scheduler run time 1h 04min, without any OSD info.
Again opened SmartDVB window, resulting in strange GUI effects, see my screen shot attached.
BTW, the tray icon symbol had disappeared, leaving empty space, but it's context menu still working.

Closed and restarted SmartDVB, all back to normal.

Did not find anything being logged in SmartDVB.
Then I've had a deep look into Windows protocols.
Nothing in there, except of the usual stupid ATI messages, complaining about graphics fan speed, though it's a fan less model...
No trace of any application, system or safety event.

Do modern computers suffer from mid live crisis or hormone disorder  :O

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 14 Februar, 2012, 09:33

well i just dug into the tray code and there is something that´s not there yet, versioning information about tray version used (seems you can also set version information for tray regarding pre win2000, post win2000, and post vista, something like that), can´t find any information saying that could/would mess things up but it's probably not there for nothing (i should have looked at this before i guess, but being optimizing the system again and programming at the same time is not an optimal combination i guess) so i'll change some things there and continue testing (just letting you guys know as you're quite into this also concerning research it seems )...
edit: and btw, if you seem to imagine feminine traits in smart well, you might just have a point there :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 14 Februar, 2012, 10:53

Okay jackjavo, I'll just uncheck for some time the "minimizing to tray" box and wait what you will find out about the tray behaviour and possible workarounds.

It's a wonderful product  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 15 Februar, 2012, 23:10

Jurgen and Rischibie you have pm with the latest tray icon test.
I ran some longer tests as it was a football evening anyways :-). For me it looks like the changes made a difference this time, HD recording of +3 hours without much problems for me i the tray, although i didn't test crypted channels.
and thanks ritchibie, i myself enjoy using this now too :)
edit: and i only tested on win7 and xp should also be tested on this (and i've also sent this test to you dada, maybe you have xp can't really remember)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 16 Februar, 2012, 00:42

I have both on the same machine, 32bit XP and 64bit 7.
The second machine needs some urgent fixes and is not supposed to be working again within this week.

So, of course, testing on both OS requires even more time.
May take up to friday then.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 16 Februar, 2012, 09:57

okay Jurgen no problem. I do have another pc available (old core2 duo, with p5bdeluxe board, no xp there atm), but don't really like testing on it as it's a very energy consuming machine (even over-clocked) as as you i have to take care financially.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 16 Februar, 2012, 12:47

Hi jackjavo,

Seems like your mail has not yet reached my mailing box  ;)

Could you pls. resend the message?

Thanx
Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 16 Februar, 2012, 17:38

oh okay ritschibie, i've resent it, might have sent it twice this time as i decided to use the "Kopie im Ausgang speicher" which i had not noticed before just to be sure it got to you...
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 16 Februar, 2012, 20:11

Thx jackjavo,

Got the new executable and installed it in my "smartdvbtest" directory. Next I started the program and set the timer to 2 hrs. and no particular action at the end:

;Feuer1

It stopped the recording after the two hours with no freezing or visible alterations in the program window. Whatever you have done, it worked on Vista with a TT 3200 S2 and
a crypted channel. I had even the screen saver running!

Congratulations from my side! :)
 :laola

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 16 Februar, 2012, 21:33

thanks ritchibie, but that's too much credit to be honest, but i do like your expressions let's say, they kinda make me laugh..
i'll await jurgens reply. And btw any of you testing dvb-t or alike, i think there are still some bugs there with the new NoSignal processing so i'll look at that next. And well see if i can release this soon then.
I think silencer does dvb-c, but not sure if dvb-t (dvb-c probably also has issues there), hope silencer is not offline coz of bad reasons btw (maybe just a nice vacation)..
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: dada am 16 Februar, 2012, 22:19

Hi Jackjavo, I tried the first recordings today with the previous version (not the one you sent recently). Funny thing. I double-clicked the recording from EPG and the scheduler window opened. I adjusted times for a recording more than 2 hours and then clicked ok. This caused an immediate crash of Smart, but the recording started anyway at the set time. Recording proceeded for about 90 minutes and then stopped with the icon in the tray disappearing. This is no new finding but the crash was surprising. I am running 64 bit W7!

Next I will try the new exe!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: dada am 16 Februar, 2012, 23:32

ok, just tested the new exe. The same crash occurs, but then there is no recording started. Also, when I program the recording from the EPG screen the same (nothing) happens. Direct recording works. Scheduled recording seems to be ignored. I worry about the fact that Smart crashes by ok-ing a scheduled recording. Nobody else with this problem?  :embarassed:

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 16 Februar, 2012, 23:57

Ok I'll test tomorrow recording from EPG (with the new exec). Will start with no CI-related channel.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 17 Februar, 2012, 04:08

Strange computer universe...

Tried the new exe on 64bit 7 Pro, and here three long scheduler recordings >2 hrs worked fine when minimized to tray.
Two on DVB-T and one on DVB-S2.

BTW, I've not fed the scheduler from EPG yet, always did this manually.


But on 32bit XP Pro, no success at all.
Adding manually to the scheduler always gives tow error messages, abnout not being able to add.
Sad to say, I forgot to write them down. Will try again tomorrow.
However, closing the scheduler and re-opening it shows the entry intended.
Though, it won't be proceeded.

Anyway, I don't want to play around on XP to much, for one big reason mainly:
Microsoft DTV decoder is not available there for, and any other causes quite some CPU load, resulting in around 70 Watts of extra energy consumption, heating up the CPU and by this causing the blowers running as crazy.
A huge ASUS Triton 78 CPU cooler with a 12cm fan, and a decent LC Power 6560GP3 with a 14cm fan.
Normally both are almost silent, but on XP both are causing the kind of noise I really don't appreciate in my living room...

This also goes for the original application, Terratec HomeCinema.
Claims to support DxVA, but no effect on the Watt meter.
Obviously no way, to turn on the full hardware support of my Radeon HD6570 on XP.
BTW, Terratec don't make the codecs available for the system.
So even WMP can't do HD on XP, just SD MPEG2, due to DVD compatibility.


You've seen my recent screen shot, it showed 1% of CPU load on SD, with a reduces core speed of 800 MHz (each), instead of 3 GHz at high load.
And I am used in getting around 4% on h.264 FullHD, also at 800 MHz CPU.
But that's only valid on 7 and with MS DTV codecs.

I did know this before, but I want to have XP as a fall back system, in case of bad mishaps. No more, no less.
So normally I don't care for DVB on this machine and XP any more.
Testing only this is.
Some more of that tomorrow, perhaps.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 17 Februar, 2012, 09:40

Tried to record from EPG today (at 08:45). Opened the EPG window, clicked on the time band on a program scheduled for 09:00 (Telegiornale, 30 min). The option window opened and I selected "record" under the EPG button. After confirming with "ok" the program crashed. I reopened the program having in mind that dada wrote smartdvb would record the selected program even when smartdvb had crashed. I can confirm this behaviour. After the epg recording had stopped I could open a flawless recording.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: dada am 17 Februar, 2012, 12:15

New tests: Using EPG to program recordings always leads to a Smart  ;) crash. When recording start time is in the future, recording works fine and the entry can be found in the scheduler. When start time happens to be a minute or more in the past, there is no recording and the scheduler is empty. Strange.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 17 Februar, 2012, 14:31

Short test with the original exec from RC1 0.2.5: leads to same result!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 18 Februar, 2012, 02:07

EPG scheduling issue confirmed.
Seems, some components are in conflict.

Code: [Auswählen]

Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: SmartDVB.exe, Version: 0.2.5.0, Zeitstempel: 0x4f3c2b41
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: SmartDVB.exe, Version: 0.2.5.0, Zeitstempel: 0x4f3c2b41
Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000005
Fehleroffset: 0x0009974a
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0xb74
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01ccedd855de0123
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: C:\SmartDVB\SmartDVB.exe
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\SmartDVB\SmartDVB.exe
Berichtskennung: c1fc0562-59cb-11e1-8863-00241d83ec4e
However, manually scheduled recordings are all working fine here on 7 Pro x64

BTW, strictly logically a new scheduler with a start time in the future is not supposed to lead to a recording, as the execution of the record start command can't happen in the past without a time machine...
But perhaps it could be done somehow, to allow people scheduling an event that already began.
May make sense specially on fridays like this (yet another German Prez quit day), to record some actualities reports from exactly now to the end.
Means, if to late, start right now, end as scheduled.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 18 Februar, 2012, 10:07

hi. Yes your totally right Jurgen, i long ago thought this also but as you might have gathered, i´ve not been a big user of the scheduling myself hence probably the longstanding bugs/problems. But as i said there are other issues there (with sometimes a wrong scheduling on duplicate channels, which can happen sometimes on the indexing values the scheduler now uses. I want to fix these things in the future, but this requires database changes i´m afraid, that´s why i´m postponing this atm. But I might look at this sheduling with a start time in the past as you mention i hope (not future, typo i hope) as it's probably not that hard to do and as you mention people might want to use that often when using the scheduler option ofcourse. (btw that dos window you saw popping up is there to run the smartexec.exe, but normally it should be hidden out of sight, just saying that it's not something strange to me). I'm sending you guys an update today which hopefully fixes the crashes you're having as i had them too (somtimes you wonder how things are introduced or how they even worked in the past, as this was totally a stupid bug i think).
All these schedule crashes seem related also on xp i think, so hopefully the next update is a fix for all, if not we'll see as always...
have a nice weekend..
edit: i've sent the update to the three of you. The crash for me is fixed it seems (win7) and also as Jurgen mentioned i try to set the first record from the main epg to a startable start-time (which is in minutes so it will start a minute max later, but i could also add this manually and not through the scheduler as a normal record, whatever you prefer so let me know), latter not tested much..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 18 Februar, 2012, 12:38

The EPG scheduling crash seems to be gone now.
Thank you very much.

Could not verify the Now event scheduling working yet. Tried twice with no result. However, no priority issue for me. I may look after this again occasionally, perhaps.

But as usual, this brought up yet another idea.
In the main window, we have EPG data displayed below the video frame, for the station tuned.
Perhaps you could add a context menue or button there, that allows instant adding to the scheduler there from as well?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 18 Februar, 2012, 12:54

+1 ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 18 Februar, 2012, 13:01

Thx, jackjavo

Seems like the EPG-Recording-Crash is solved by the latest version of smartdvb. I tuned in on RAI3, clicked the EPG symbol and started an EPG controlled recording (TG3, 10 min). I programmed at 11:45, sent the program into the tray and at 12:00 I got a short pop up of the program window (<1 sec). At 12:10 again a short popup when the recording ended.

Recording was flawless.

Unfortunately, I can't tune in on Astra channels right now, to start EPG programming on SKY. Somehow (even if I have good signal levels in the status bar) the screen remains dark. As I have the same direct show options on Hotbird and no problems with the screen there, I think that the problem isn't releated with DS components. I checked if I've lost the Astra connection with the dish (using DVBViewer) and found no problems there. Scanning the sat in smart, I only got tuning results after transpoinder 11538 then nothing and more consisting tuning results on TP 11739 ff. I'm using the following settings in the Frequencies list:

Diseq 1 settings for Hotbird: Type: Simple, LNB1 Diseq 2 LNB2
Diseq 2 settings for Astra:    Type: Simple LNB 2 Diseq 2 LNB1

On Astra I got mostly Arabic and some italian tv programmes

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 18 Februar, 2012, 13:13

oh ritschibie. That astra tuning problem might be related to some bugs i found when adding frequency lists (related to those changes made that show 'dvb-t' etc now. When adding frequency lists for sats this could go wrong in the beginning (i didn't test that with the rc1, so adding sat/dvb-t/c lists from a new install). So can you see if perhaps taht's the problem, it might be needed to remove the current astra list, add it again, maybe you'll loose the astra channels and will need to rescan. But i did change things in the 'add/edit frequency list dialog as those bugs resulted in wrongly added dvb-t lists etc, not sure about this, but i'm sure i changed things there so hope the problem lies there (and the older rc1 exe probably still works for you for astra doesn't it?? And those popups are related to previous attempts to solve the tray icon bug, but i think they were not necessary in the end, so i'll make sure to remove them (the showing of those windows quickly, as at that time i thought perhaps the interface updating was the cause of the problem)..
jackjavo
edit: jurgen, by the now event you mean in the MAIN epg window, and when adding that now task what time do you see there (should be current time + 1 min) (that's also where i made the changes that seemed to work for me, and yes adding a context menu there will be done, was also in my mind with the rc1 release actually, but well i had to stop somewhere)? Snoop: you  mean you also want the test?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 18 Februar, 2012, 15:54

I have :Diseq 1 settings for Astra:    Type:Commited lnb1
           Diseq 1 settings for HotBird: Type:Commited lnb2

Scan is verry good  Astra  1108 TV Channel
                         Hot Bird 1501 TV Channel

For me not function record :Error openingE:Aufnahmen name.ts

I have Skystar2 HD  WindowsXP 32Bit SP3

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 18 Februar, 2012, 16:36

Thx yvmifi, your settings helped  :)

First, I deleted the Astra channels. Scanning result: as before, only transponders 117xx ff were scanned on Astra. Then, I deleted both channel lists: same result as before. Then I removed smartdvb for reinstalling. After reinstallment I got again less than half the signals though on many transponders the L indicator showed a good signal but the Q indicator failed.

Then, finally I read yvmifis configuration, applied it and voila...most of the transponders were successfully scanned on Astra. Thx again yvmifi!

Today I will have no more testing time but will test tomorrow the new exec. on CI (SKY) and EPG recording...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 18 Februar, 2012, 17:04

oh okay ritschibie, i was assuming you had diseqc correctly set :-). yvmifi: what is your record path setting? make sure it has a trailing \ after E: perhaps that's it??? or otherwise write here what the setting is and i'll test it here..
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 18 Februar, 2012, 18:22

jackjavo    Pfad is analog SmartDVB1.5 and is ok!!!!

I have found: Path again put on

also no Problem !!!!!
ist allright  i have the new LAV codec ist really good  HQ and HD is exelent

Record HQ mpg its fine and HD ts is realy exelent.(longtime-record not yet tested)

CPU by FullHD 30-45%; by ARD HD and ZDF HD 25-35  by HQ FTA 2-7% and decrypt 4-9 with Hadu and 6-12% with FlyCCCam Homesharing

EPG recording I`m not testet

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: dada am 18 Februar, 2012, 19:40

Could just test the new exe. Programming from the EPG works fine now as you described. Also progamming directly from the EPG box in the main window now works very nicely. Thanks a lot!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 18 Februar, 2012, 20:20

 the new exe ??????

I can`t see the download !!!

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: moonchild am 18 Februar, 2012, 20:40

Since i got a TT s2-1600 today, i started testing the new interesting blindsscan function of smartdvb. Are there more people running this card with smartdvb?

I use multiswitch with quattro lnb. When scanning the channels of transponder 11856 V on 23E are found by blindscan at 12706. The difference is 850, so exactly the same as difference between lof1 and lof2 of lnb. I think that wrong output of lnb is selected for scanning?

Since florian bda is working perfectly it must be something in streamreader.dll or its settings.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 19 Februar, 2012, 03:35

Zitat von: jackjavo am 18 Februar, 2012, 13:13

jurgen, by the now event you mean in the MAIN epg window, and when adding that now task what time do you see there (should be current time + 1 min)

-1) How should I do this, 'record now' or 'schedule'?
-2) Where should I see this, in the scheduler dialog, or on the EPG window, or where else?

Tried again a moment ago, to start a recording for the Now event, but no success by addressing the scheduler.
Dialog opened, start time appeared one minute before the nominal event start time.
Confirmed, no recording started, nothing to be found in the scheduler, no anything whatsoever.

So, what did I misunderstand?


'Record Now' instead does start immediately, but I haven't yet tested, if this would then stop at the end of the event.
It's late now. To be continued tomorrow, I hope.

@ yvmifi
The new .exe version is tested internally right now, not publically available for now.

@ moonchild
Did you mess around with the LNB cables recently?
If so, check all of those, one by one.
Else, of course this could as well point to some weird 22kHz switching issue, either hardware or software related  :-\
Perhapos first compare with another software.

p.s.
@ jackjavo
yet another indea for possible future improvement:

Also depending on the tuner in use, and it's timing behaviour, it may be better, to change the scanning method.

Better not hop from H to V transponders and back, but do all the H first, all the V later.
Changing polarisation on each scanning step is not the best way for a full scan, as this requires quite some time for re-stabilisation of the tuner.

For example, if having quite some level differences between H and V, a tuner may need some extra time, to readjust AGC.
Another extra long timing may be required, if AFC had to compensate an eventual LOF offset.
My DVB-S2 tuner may in extreme cases need up to 10 seconds all together. This goes for the original application as well.

And there are two extreme positions, that have such strong level differences here, Astra 28.2°E due to the islands heading beams, and 30°W.

So, from my point of view it might be better, to not change switch states frequently during scanning.
Just scan one reception plane after the other, like most receivers do.
And maybe introduce two sets of timings, one for without switching action, and the other for switching only.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 19 Februar, 2012, 07:22

then custom I the old exe not continue to test.

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 19 Februar, 2012, 10:01

@yvmifi: i'm sending the new test-builds by pm here (don't want buggy versions spread). So i'll send it to you if you want it too (is there an easier way to send multiple same pm's here (probably just "name1", "name2" etc? in the to field).

@jurgen: ahh okay sorry, i see there's a mixup here. I thought you meant double-clicking on the current even in the main smartdvb epg window (so not the blue full EPG let's say). There the changes should be there. It's not hard to also incorporate that in the full epg (i haven't spent much time on that for a while as i want to remake that, these things were graphically quickly made way back as i was more busy with figuring out the inner workings).
And yes you're right about the V/H changing, at the moment you can select the H/V polarities with the 'select'  option in the scanner, i know other people do it like that. And i also might add sorting or alike of the transponder lists in the future to make this easier then.

@moonchild: i see this is probably a problem in the blindscan.dev which is used by the blindscanner (which you also btw can select as a module to tune, i assume when you do that it probably also won't tune correctly as i think there are probably errors there in the handling of the different lnb's, don't think it's  streamreader.dll problem as that's just a raw diseqc call which should always work as streamreader is much used by people, so i'll look at that thanks).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 19 Februar, 2012, 11:01

jackjovo      I would receive then gladly over pm Test.exe.

Thank you   yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: moonchild am 19 Februar, 2012, 15:52

@ Jürgen: cables are ok, bda.dev is working ok. 22 kHz switching should not be a problem either since IF's on multiswitch are selected by diseqc command.

@ jackjavo: i found out that i can tune using the blindscanner module. But i need to use raw diseqc for it to work. E0 10 39 F1 for uncommited switch and E0 10 38 F1 for multiswitch, when looking at streamreader.log this gets translated to SendDiseqCmd(0x0827F39C, 4), SendDiseqCmd(0x0827F39C, 4). Looks strange to me.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: moonchild am 19 Februar, 2012, 16:07

SendDiseqCmd(0x0827F39C, 4) from streamreader does not seem to be actual diseqc command, value does not change after using different raw command. After closing/restarting smartdvb the value is now SendDiseqCmd(0x07FEF39C, 4), no matter what raw comand is being sent  ???

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: moonchild am 19 Februar, 2012, 17:52

Blindscan module is working ok with raw diseqc commands. But changing settings within the module is not enough, i have to leave the module and change raw diseqc the normal way. Great stuff :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 19 Februar, 2012, 18:01

hi moonchild. Just a quick answer concerning these odd senddiseqccmd values you seem to have. Have not heard this before, have you tried updating your streamreader.dll to a newer available (still have to do that also here as there are some changes there i also can incorporate (better dvb-t detection etc). The raw command is simply passed nothing is converted on my side so well i dunno what crazycat logs there, can't imagine the byte order of the command being different either in the senddiseqccmd (would be very odd i think). There can be various issues i think with streamreader, have you read around about your specific card or tried other versions? Just to be sure.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: moonchild am 19 Februar, 2012, 22:27

Zitat von: jackjavo am 19 Februar, 2012, 18:01

have you read around about your specific card or tried other versions? Just to be sure.

Ok, i have found a 40+ pages thread at gofastmotorsports, will start reading there ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 20 Februar, 2012, 01:43

Zitat von: jackjavo am 19 Februar, 2012, 10:01

@jurgen: ahh okay sorry, i see there's a mixup here. I thought you meant double-clicking on the current even in the main smartdvb epg window (so not the blue full EPG let's say). There the changes should be there.

So this is what I misunderstood, in fact.

Well, now I can confirm, scheduling an already running event from the EPG area of the main window DOES work as expected.
Double click opens the scheduler dialogue, start time is set for the next minute, stop time according to the event.
However, the user may have to be fast on confirming, if he's doing this within the last second(s) of the minute.

BTW, the user can set additional time for the scheduler. Did not yet test, if this also effects that quick scheduling start and / or end time.
In my understanding, the start time should not be effected in this situation, but the end time still should.
Now I am planning to test this tomorrow. 

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 20 Februar, 2012, 09:31

Hi Jurgen. Yes you´re right, i´m will add this to the full EPG too and i already noticed the end time needs a fix also so wait before testing this until i send you the next exe.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 20 Februar, 2012, 12:03

Hi. An update with the epg current even fixes should be sent to all here (if you didn't get it let me know). Also a blindscan.dev update is there (other lnb types lof fixes i hope)..
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 20 Februar, 2012, 21:27

Okay, Ladies & Gentlemen!

I had two hard days not testing but getting smart to run. To make a long story full of clicks short:
For crypted channels I have to set the device option to "Florian" to see all other channels I have to
reverse to "Technisat". That's a new one to me but not really botherin'. What I really don't understand
is, that I found no way on scanning Transponder 11362 on Astra 19.2 E. I tried every imaginable
modulation but could not scan the thing (das Erste HD, Arte HD and ZDF HD).

Does anybody have an idea how to tune in to that transponder (no probs with DVBViewer there!)?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: dada am 20 Februar, 2012, 21:41

Hi Jackjavo,

tested today the last exe you sent concerning EPG-based recording. I think I used any imaginable setting for a recording and it always worked fine ;Beifall.

@ ritschie

The Transponder 11362 on Astra 19.2 E problem I do not understand. Are you talking about the blind scanner or normal bda.dev. I am using the Florian version and that works ok  with botj of my cards.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 20 Februar, 2012, 22:06

@dada: I use technisat bda for non crypted and florian for crypted.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 20 Februar, 2012, 22:20

hi ritschibie: what module do you mean exactly by technisat bda (not skystar.dev i hope that's no bda and for skystar devices so if that seems to work something else odd is going on, can you check your devices directory and see what files are there?)
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 20 Februar, 2012, 22:32

Hi jackjavo, for noncrypted programs I use the "BDA DVB-S/T/C ATSC Device" and for crypted the "Florian DVB-S/T/C ATSC Device". Find my devise subdirectory in the picture attached.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 21 Februar, 2012, 01:17

I've tested the timing mentioned, with the latest .exe you've sent in the morning, and it's working fine, both from main Window EPG area and from EPG window.
The delay for record stop does exactly what it is supposed to.

Good work, indeed  8)

Yet another tiny idea:
For a better user understanding, the message on double clicking from the EPG windwo bestter should be "Record this event now", instead of "Record this program now".
The expression "program" is to diffuse, as this word has a bunch of meanings.
(EPG) "event" would in any case be more precise.

Such may be pretty important, once we may try to translate SmartDVB, like into German...  ;)
BTW, what would be necessary to do this?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 21 Februar, 2012, 08:41

@ritchibie: about the bda.dev proglems with fta channel you're having. I'll send you the current bda.dev i have here at least. The only reason i can think of why this might be happening is perhaps the CI handling for some reason for you. Could you see if when turning that off bda.dev works for fta channels for u (even though i haven't changed anything there recently, but well for FTA nothing should be done and it should always work especially if crypted work, also if it still happens attach some logs after failed fta tuning or viewing smartdvb.log and bda.log).

@jurgen: ok good then, fiddling with dates that was. About that 1 min delay, i could also double check this when pressing the OK button  in the add task dialog and if the minute has passed add another one, or maybe simpler just add 2 minutes?

Yes thanks for reminding me of the translations, i still need to run through the application and move all translatable strings (in the blindscanner and such) to the resources (when programming i skip that as it's tedious to do and distracts from what you're doing, so i always kinda leave that for the release). I'm fixing some bugs/oversights in the blindscanner (correct sr skipping, also question for people using blindscanner here, do you see correct percentage values on the signal/quality progressbars? They dissapear here now with me on win7 32 while on my last install win7 64 i didnt see that, maybe some control version problem, or maybe even os?). And yes event seems better to use, also when recording perhaps radio 'program' does not seem that appropriate.

About translating. It's all resource based. So any tool that can translate resources into a dll should work. Last time i looked one good tool looked like lingobit for example. These tools are very versatile and that one had even things like automatic google translating and such (which not perfect but a good base to start, or even have something quickly). Alhough not as simple as just text translating it's much more versatile as you also can adjust the dialogs/menu's etc a bit whatever is needed to get the translation to show correctly. The dll's do have to have specific versioning information (and block header language information, last time i tried the trial of lingobit i could not change that anymore which was very tedious i had to resort to visual studio to change that value otherwise it won't be recognized as the correct language inside smartdvb). But some people even just translate the .exe resources, also possible ofcourse. The translated dll's then go into the language directory and smart should pick them up.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 21 Februar, 2012, 12:52

@jackjavo:
this problem reminds me of the early 0.2.5 (or 0.2.0) versions where it was possible to access CI only through the "Florian" BDA device. I remember that you wrote on that occasion that CI implementation is experimental and only possible through Flori. What I do not understand is that, at least on my system, I can watch without any problems Hotbird programs running Flori but no Astra channels. There I have to switch to "TT" BDA. Unfortunately the bda.dev that you kindly sent me did not change the situation.

Logging Transponder 11632 might be (I'm cautious there because dada tested only quickly) a TT S-2 3200 problem with the current smart module. dada wrote in the shoutbox that his tevii had no problems scanning that transponder whereas his TT S-2 3200 failed. Let's see if others with a TT like mine have problems here too.

Regards
Ritschibie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 21 Februar, 2012, 13:09

hiho . i have no problem scanning this transponder(s)

Here are my device settings ->

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1441/climsyclipboarde.jpg)

btw. i use the Florian bda device ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 21 Februar, 2012, 14:27

hi again ritschibie: yes as silencer says can you double check your device settings, and before you said you need to change the commited settings for your device to show astra correctly, was this on bdas.dev or bda.dev? could also be a diseqc problem again ofcourse, but well technotrend diseqc has been quite tested also on bda.dev (oh and i also seem to remember you were using direct tuning mode somewhere, maybe in bda.dev as standard tuning didnt' work correctly for you, standard should really work no reason not to, so maybe this is still something that's there for you for some reason)
edit: and also about your scanning problems, did you do a sync with kingofsat just to be sure it's not another parameter problem?
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 21 Februar, 2012, 16:00

Ok, we're making some progress now! I used Silæncers settings and could scan 11362 (erste, zdf & arte hd). Thx SiL!

I can even watch now with the "Florian" bda-d the Astra channels. I had to change from "Cyberlink h.264" to "Cyberlink 10.0"" which had the best and stable results (see picture annexed). The "Cyberlink h.264" produced after 5 sec a super slow motion picture.

Will report more if there is more to report  :)

Can anybody solve the question of the "Servus HD" transponder? On Astra 19.2 E I don't see frequency 12.663 (Servus TV HD) in the transponder list  ???

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 21 Februar, 2012, 16:14

oh okay, but then you probably some time back changed the bda.dev settings manually? As technotrend really should be auto detected correctly.. odd. And if you were using XP for older cyberlink it was needed to use the AVC1 option when adding the HD decoder (with the 'add' button in the connection settings). On win7 i don't think older cl decoders work well (10 or above i used)..
edit: what are your transponder settings for that Servus HD frequency? i'll check them

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 21 Februar, 2012, 17:24

 i use the Florian bda device  analog SiLæncer (only Devisetyp Twinhands)
no problem with scan for all channels

EPG-based recording work fine Thank!!!!!!

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 21 Februar, 2012, 18:01

Zitat von: jackjavo am 21 Februar, 2012, 16:14

then you probably some time back changed the bda.dev settings manually?

Yes, I did. You sent me two or three bda.dev which I accordingly inserted into the device subdirectory.
I have the following OSD (picture 1) and Connection (picture 2) settings. On my system they proved to be stable and deliver a good picture.

@yvmifi: "for all channels" means you have scanned "Servus HD"?

Thx
Ritschibie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 21 Februar, 2012, 22:40

yes of transponder 20=11302,H,22000,23,S2,8PSK: ORF1HD;ORF2HD:ServusTV HD Deutschland;ServusTV HD Oestereich


Yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 21 Februar, 2012, 23:13

Thx yvmifi  :)

Got just the same info from dada in the shoutbox. I had the wrong frequency from "Google". Somehow, in my full scan Servus HD and the others did not show up but scanning the frequency by itself I got all the channels. Now EPG testing from my side (with CI) may begin  ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 22 Februar, 2012, 00:34

Zitat von: jackjavo am 21 Februar, 2012, 08:41

@jurgen: ok good then, fiddling with dates that was. About that 1 min delay, i could also double check this when pressing the OK button  in the add task dialog and if the minute has passed add another one, or maybe simpler just add 2 minutes?

Double checking may be better, to not lose to much of the event.
Is there an easy way to find out, if the actual minute has more than one second left? If yes, keep that minute then, else add one more and proceed.

Zitat von: jackjavo am 21 Februar, 2012, 08:41

Yes thanks for reminding me of the translations, i still need to run through the application and move all translatable strings ... to the resources

OK.
Just let us know when it's done, whenever this may be.

Main reason for my question was, I've made some serious attempts on translating ProgDVB and HispaDVB quite some time ago, but on both, to many important components could not be edited at all or just in a very limited way.
And of course it would be necessary, to not have to start from the very beginning over and over again, once the software author changed to much on the GUI. Prog did that more than once, even mixing up and cross changing resources, and many of those could not even be accessed by ResHacker and alike. Got even worse due to his frequent quick and dirty fixes. So I gave it up in the end...

So please don't feel forced in any way, definitely no need to hurry on anything.
Good clean code and reliability are far more important than the comfort aspects, my ideas relate to in most cases.

SmartDVB has already turned into my favourite and default DVB application.

So I have to thank you again, for all your effort

Jürgen

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 22 Februar, 2012, 00:57

jackjavo

thank you for this SmartDVB 0.2.5 !!!! It is my favourite DVB application.

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 22 Februar, 2012, 10:47

good that it now works ritschibie (i asked that in a previous post, maybe you could have used the SYNC with kingofsat? or didnt' that work? Just update all the current frequencies with that? and any mistakes should be fixed). Btw anyone know what the best current source for actual .ini lists is? I'm looking at h__p://satellites-xml.eu/ but in the past these lists didn't prove that actual or good i think (current lists are from there i think, got it from a user) but these lists at least do include american satellites (not including feeds etc), i guess kingofsat would be best for european lists, dunno about american lists etc ofcourse.

Zitat

Is there an easy way to find out, if the actual minute has more than one second left? If yes, keep that minute then, else add one more and proceed.

Ok. I'll look into that sounds like a better solution.

Zitat

Just let us know when it's done, whenever this may be.

Well yesterday i actually ran through the app (for sure ofcourse it was necessary for the blindscanner), but i might ofcourse have missed things. I can send you the current update for that, but then if peole start to translate this i for sure won't/can't add any more strings or change dialogs :)

Zitat

And of course it would be necessary, to not have to start from the very beginning over and over again, once the software author changed to much on the GUI. Prog did that more than once, even mixing up and cross changing resources, and many of those could not even be accessed by ResHacker and alike. Got even worse due to his frequent quick and dirty fixes. So I gave it up in the end...

Yes i totally  understand this, also the problems prog had with this as in the past this already has proven to me to be a problem. People make translations and in next versions stuff has to be done anew (but lingobit has a provision for example for this in that you can simply import previous DLL data, even without changing the current dialogs as that would be a problem, i remember i did have to mess with that, but well it is possible i think, so you like simply generate the dll from the current dll, including all dialogs, and after that import text from previous dll translation, i think i tested this, but in any case it's not really simple for everyone and in the past i already noticed this being a stumble block for many users to translate stuff!). I did add some provision for this some time back to SmartDVB so it would be possible to use older translation DLL's and where needed smart checks if resources required are newer, if resources in the translation are out of date smart defaults to the current resources (and it will show up in the default english in the app, but better than nothing i guess). But i don't really like this solution as it's very work intensive (i like have to maintain resource versions inside the app all around, don't like that) for me and can also lead to crashes if wrong resources are picked up ofcourse. So maybe prog also tried some kinds of such solutions, it's not very clean i have to say so i do understand his probs..

And thanks guys for the compliments, didn't get much of those in the long past let's say (sometimes even to the contrary)..

jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 22 Februar, 2012, 13:05

Yes, jackjavo now good young smartdvb runs smoothly again  :) . As device I use "Florianbda", it seems to be like a "swiss knife" for my installation.

I just got the wrong frequency information for the "Servus HD" channels on Astra (I just quickly looked into: hxxp://insider.ses-astra.de/news/2009/11/artikel/servus-tv-so-einfach-finden-sie-das-neue-hd-angebot-auf-astra/ and thought the 12663 was correct). After yvmifis and dadas hints, I quickly moved to check on frequency 11302. What happened was that on my first succesfull scan on Astra 19.2 E the Transponder on 11302 was (for whatever reason) not scanned. A single scan of this frequency resulted in a quick success!

I allways stay with "KingofSat" when I feel an updated Transponder List is needed. Here (http://de.kingofsat.net/satellites.php) you get with one click the relevant list for the Sat you need to update. A look into the "Letzte Aktulisierung" shows you how up to date the information is. This site is "the admins choice" on our forum for Transponder updates and this "award" is well earned by them  ;)

Frankly, your sync option in smartdvb is for a dummie like me a little bit confusing. I prefer to download the new ini-file from KoS and simply copy it to the \smartdvb\Transponder subdirectory.

This (the sync option) leads my to the point of translation of smartdvb menue. I would rather suggest as a first step to build up a "how to" for major steps with smartdvb (connection, device, device settings, etc.). Of course, experienced application pros would not have to look into but dummies like me would be happy for a "helping hand"  :)

Waiting for the final release of 0.2.5, a very good program!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 22 Februar, 2012, 13:47

oh okay ritchibie :-) Well just a quick howto then with that sync option it's also possible to kinda copy just all quickly. Just select sync > kingofsat. And after getting into the sync menu correctly a quicky 'copy all' and 'save' should at least give you all current kingofsat frequencies. But well i might just add a simple 'get current list from kingofsat' copy option or something in future then. I'll get back on the rest lateron today..
take care jj

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 22 Februar, 2012, 15:35

jackjavo !    one does not have to adapt the frequency data from the Kingofsat however to Smart otherwise to go the HD 8PSK transponders . (and9/10) not correctly 910 in Smart


yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 22 Februar, 2012, 20:12

Zitat

one does not have to adapt the frequency data from the Kingofsat however to Smart otherwise to go the HD 8PSK transponders

what do you mean exactly by this yvmifi (the 910 remark is clear to me and i have already fixed that)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 23 Februar, 2012, 00:33

A propos Lingobit Localizer, I've just noticed the price and almost lost my mind...
A demo is available, but limited to 50 translations in total.
So this would not be a real solution for me. Several of that 50 free translations would surely be needed, even before the very first working one was ready...

Anyway, from my point of view, there must be a way, to avoid the need for full re-translation on every resource change.
Though, I am not a programmer, just an ordinary TV mechanic.
So my ideas may even be completely useless or at least unrealistic.

Basically I am thinking of a plain text style table, holding lines for (semi) progressive unique string numbers and an input area for each, similar to the usual ini format. or even the good old key format  ;wusch
Maybe, also basic parameters like width / height or number of symbols could be edited or even commented like this --> [comment] or --> :REM comment or --> ...; comment  
If changes were done, an obsolete number simply should not be reused, to avoid conflicts.
New string, new number, new line added at the end.
Means, obsolete entries could stay inside, corrections would be done in the existing line, new ones all to be found at the end.

This way we would only need some routine, to import this table somehow, into a database the .exe can read.
Bad bug inside, causing the application to crash, then simply (auto) delete that database, drop back to (internal) default language and notify user to make him remove the bad language file.
BTW, perhaps an export of the default language strings to such a language file could help on getting started.

For my limited understanding, this seems to be quite similar to skins, or even a part of those.
However, charset / encoding would be an issue.

Would your developer tools allow this?
Could this perhaps be done without excessive effort?

Well, all my soldering experience surely won't help a lot here.
But of course throughout the years I had to learn, what can't be done with that good old Weller station.
For example, definitely no way on a modern mainboard southbridge.

May well be, programmer tools bring their own limitations.
If so, that's totally acceptable.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 23 Februar, 2012, 08:54

46=11914,H,27500,910,8PSK thats is correctly for Smart 46=11914,H,27500,91,S2,QPSK  that is from Kingofsat
25=11435,V,22000,23,S2,8PSK  thats is correctly for Smart analog KingofSat 25=11435,V,22000,23,S2,8PSK 
43=11856,V,27500,34,QPSK  thats is correctly for Smart analog KingofSat 43=11856,V,27500,34,DVB-S,QPSK

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 23 Februar, 2012, 09:13

Zitat

A propos Lingobit Localizer, I've just noticed the price and almost lost my mind...

Hah, well it's not like that, there's a translator version a developer deploys to the translators which ofcourse if free in such case (not a full version ofcourse that is, so in a company one would buy such a tool probably for large projects, but i also cannot buy that ofcourse).

Zitat

Basically I am thinking of a plain text style table, holding lines for (semi) progressive unique string numbers and an input area for each

Yes this is possible ofcourse, as you say probably analog to skin-alike things (which i also want to look at in the long future). Each resource has an id for example, so one could just like perhaps generate some XML file with couplings to those id's and create some routines to read id's from the xml file instead of the actual exe resource, something like that (i would opt for xml in the future, depending on efficiency from my side, still have to look into those things but there are quite some low footprint xml parsers around, just haven't gotton to that yet). But for me it looks like quite some work but still doable, like for each dialog one would make some initialization routine which would get the strings from the correct dialog entry in the xml/ini file and replace the current resource strings (don't think putting in db will make it much more efficient). And as i said the resource solution is not nice now so i'll keep this in mind also when starting stuff that needs xml or other configuration elements (which i'll probably try already for the new osd a bit for the osd itself as i have thought about that a bit also concerning making it in a way that will allow skinning in the future of those osd elements (at least make the graphics configurable as i'll make them external this time so not in a resource i already had made that decision), depends on how much time that actually takes). Ofcourse such xml generations and initializations routines all have to be written (or perhaps there are things for that which would make life easier, like libraries for certain languages etc, have not really looked in to that)

Zitat

46=11914,H,27500,910,8PSK thats is correctly for Smart 46=11914,H,27500,91,S2,QPSK  that is from Kingofsat

okay thanks yvmifi looks okay to me as i said that 91 > 910 fix is already done in the current build i have here

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 23 Februar, 2012, 09:49

@ritchibie: and yes making some kind of help file for smart has also been a very long-standing issue for me :). Some users tried some things way back in the old .hlp format (but for example the help system now in visual studio is maybe nice but quite heavy in use for me so have never really liked that, i like just google now for stuff, i actually much more preferred the old .hlp files for nice quick reading also offline, but maybe that's becoming a mute point for now and i should just look into some kind of online help).
I think i might have some basic .hlp file somewhere still which could be updated

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 23 Februar, 2012, 20:50

@jackjavo: One or two suggestions from my side which (I hope) are not too complicated to follow would be:

a) During installation the installer could ask how many satellites one adresses, if a rotor is used, what preference for lnb1(2) should be chosen followed maybe by an automatical scanning of the relevant sattelites (in the case of a rotor this would be too time consuming). Another critical issue is the "connection". A basic connection set is already arranged by the program after installation but maybe there are ways to put that at the disposal of the user during the install procedure? In my eyes these are the two most critical choices for the user to get a smooth running program on the screen. Though I know that there are a number of pc-tv-card users that are experts in setting up the soft for their card, the majority of win users like the feeling that once installed the program runs "out of the box" like a charm.

b) On my system the changing of the 8PSK filter option in the "device settings" led twice to a BSD. Maybe a special warning next to the selection window (or above/below) for non-experts could be useful here?

c) I'm still working with the program to get it "customized" (window sizing, aspect ratio, etc.) and have therefore not discovered all treasures of smart. But, one thing in the "smartdvb setting" has catched my eyes: it's the point called "UDP streaming". As a few of us have recently set up successfully the "Recording Service" of the DVBViewer it would be interesting if there is a way to set up a streaming client for smartdvb. Any chasnce to get some hints here from your side?

Thx

Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 23 Februar, 2012, 23:14

Oh yes ritchibie i realise the install can be improved, for sure the connection dialog at the end is not difficult, but auto-scanning might be more work i'll leave these details for after this release. And also about the selected codecs by default i can still easily optimize this by re-ordering the default installed codec in the filters.ini (when selecting one at install these are selected from top to bottom lets say, so video1, video2 etc (as long as the codec is available) will be the first one selected, so this can be optimized by selected the best working codecs in smart on top. Darn, each time i think im almost there something else comes up :)
Oh can you give more details about that bsod? Where did it happen exactly so i can reproduce it perhaps? Would consider this a bug (although not sure might be also a bda driver problem, but still, and also if you have a device that should be correctly detected automatically this should always work best in the default settings as these things are thought out...
You can stream to for example VLC on another pc atm (not a real client architecture, also something to add in future i've talked about that before) or tsreader (as also mentioned on the smartdvb.net website). For vlc
look for example here: h__p://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/Smartdvb-stream-to-vlc-5674155?trail=15, and make sure to use UDP streaming in vlc and to enter a udp url like this udp://@:8888 where the port is the one
selected in udp settings in smartdvb, other applications may vary here btw. Also in vlc if you stream the entire ts there is an option to select another channel in vlc (not sure where anymore or if it varies with different vlc versions). But in such a way you can use vlc to watch something elsewhere (even another program on the same transponder if sending the entire transponder ts)
edit: oh and btw there are some bugs in the current builds you have in the udp streaming (introduced) so if you have probs getting it working let me know..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 24 Februar, 2012, 00:03

BTW, the standard for codec used should always be Windows Default.
Users may change this later, if they like to.

Beginning with 7 Pro, Windows may bring it's own set of codecs, MS DTV / DVD Codecs.
If I remember well, those appear automatically and free of charge, once a file was tried to play in recent WMP.
For me, those are working fine.
And they get full hardware support from the graphics device, resulting in VERY low CPU use.
On my system it's like 4 - 8 % CPU load on FullHD, requiring no more then around 10 Watts of extra electrical energy in total.
And even with a less capable graphics card it's almost as good, like around 20 Watts extra, using a GeForce 9400GT.

Tested on 7 Pro SP1 x64.
Don't know, if the Home version also provides a full set of codecs.

Have not yet found any free codec, that would also allows this effectve hardware support.

On XP, there's nothing similar, so users of that would have to find their own solution.
However, those would always have access to the original software of their tuners.
And this may (but not must) install codecs required.

Normally, there is no codec set, being better for DVB than for DVD or BluRay, for example.
Just one bad habit is spreading, more and more OEM software keeps it's codecs hidden, not making it available for the system.
What a nasty idea, to pay several times, for all the MPEG2 and h.264 codecs on just a single machine...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 24 Februar, 2012, 09:13

ofcourse once again you're right (i hope i would have been thoughtfull enough to do that) and those msdtv codecs work quite stable with smartdvb it seems so that will be fine on win7 as you say, xp indeed always needs some codec install but still codecs like nvidia in the past always worked well for me (for sd that id) on xp so i'll try to put those somewhere at the top too.
Well the lav codecs used to produce stable and low cpu for me but later lav versions 0.46 seem to work worse in smartdvb as it seems they're also changing directshow connection parameters etc, kinda bothersome if you spend time on ensuring it connects..
Oh i see, i did notice some oddities with later hd codecs it seems yes, but had not realised as you say that they're maybe doing this on purpose, oh well, i guess we all suffer from this econimic crisis maybe :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 24 Februar, 2012, 10:15

Um ... Jürgen, could you explain how to get that MS codecs? I have Win 7 Pro 64-bit, but no MS Codecs are visible in SmartDVB.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 24 Februar, 2012, 10:41

Ah ... ok! Disregard! Found it under "Add" ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 24 Februar, 2012, 16:27

@jackjavo: I tried to install smartdvb as a streaming agent with youir suggestions. Whereas in smartdvb I could see (from the indicator led) that it streamed with 42 Mbit I had no chance (with all help from the thread you posted) to get the netstreaming on VLC working. Then I tried with the network IP from my Fritzbox and it worked. Unfortunately, the picture is at times full of blocks.

After that "experiment" my Astra channels were (although tuned in as shown by the led indicators) invisible. I deleted all channels again, started with astra as lnb1 and hotbird as lnb 2 (Diseq 1 committed). Device is Florian and tuning is default. I got all astra channels again but missed the HD channels. I went through the settings and discovered that I had (as reported in an earlier post) left the h.264 codec on "Cyberlink PDVB 10.0". Changing that to the Cyberlink h.264 codec and scanning (this time only the relevant transponders) Astra again tuned in the HD channels. It's interesting that the inbuilt frequency scanner is connected to the "connection" menue. I don't remember that the DVBViewer has the same procedure.

I'll keep testing the features
Thx
Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 24 Februar, 2012, 18:21

okay ritchibie, but did you actually use udp://@:8888 in VLC? So not entering the actual ip there? and it still didn't work?
well there should be no connection between the scanner and the 'connection' dialog, so something else must have happened there i guess..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 24 Februar, 2012, 19:49

Yes, I used udp://@:8888 in VLC. Streaming works - as reported - when I replace the 127.0.0.1 with the IP of my router (Fritzbox). Problem seems to be the 42 Mbit/s because I get slightly scrambled picture (not only with HDTV channels). Maybe here somebody else can report his experience?

jackjavo could you check if the choice of a non-h.264 codec in the h.264 blocks scanning HDTV channels? I tried it twice...same result!

Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 24 Februar, 2012, 21:14

hi ritchibie: please hold off with the UDP testing as i found some bugs there, would send you an update now but am in the middle of things. And that connection problem i cannot reproduce, would be hard to believe also, hopefully you can reproduce this in another way to realise better perhaps what is going on then. Did you change perhaps any scan settings? (like no auto-fec or things alike?).

Zitat

non-h.264 codec in the h.264 blocks

Do you mean selecting a real SD decoder sd H.264 decoder? (this would be a futile exercise ofcourse, so i'm guessing you're basing your comment on the NAME of the h.264 codec, ofcourse this doesn't mean much as it's still a H.264 decoder even though H.264 would not be in the name, otherwise it would not even connect or show any HD video??)..
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 24 Februar, 2012, 21:54

@jackjavo: No, I could not reproduce this problem. I played five times with the 8PSK settings and (fortunately) nothing happened.  :)

I had twice the Cyberlink PDVB 10.0 decoder set as:
a) Video decoder and
b) as h.264 decoder

In this configuration smartdvb did not scan HDTV channels (rather frequencies with HDTV cvhannels). I've now installed the divx H264 filter which is running much better than the Cyberlink h.264 (9.0) which (with the AVC1 option implemented) just went into super slowmotion after 5 seconds.

Don't hurry with the update since I have only tested UDP to see if it works and maybe give some hints to others how to get it to work  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 24 Februar, 2012, 22:40

Zitat

I had twice the Cyberlink PDVB 10.0 decoder set as:

yes these things happen to me too, but i have not problems with that, i guess lateron i could like just add a check and a message if the decoder is already there (guids are unique even if the name is different (maybe just a name change then?) so that would not be a problem).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 27 Februar, 2012, 09:56

i've sent a release test out (install this time), i've i've missed someone let me know. Ritschibie: can you look again at udp if you can, hope it works as before again as there were no problems with the streaming there before. You can look in the history.txt this time to see the changes (blindscanner now should also work with cascaded diseqc 1.1 switches)..
thanks again!

jackjavo
edit: oh and since i had to rebuild my environment i hope there are not any strange problems with the install (not all components are rebuilt as i don't think that's necessary also but well one never knows)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 27 Februar, 2012, 13:18

Thx, jackjavo: I will not comment for now install...only UDP.

Now UDP streaming works also with the given IP 127.x.x.1. I had tuned in ZDF HD but in VLC "arte info journal" showed up  ???
The stream in VLC has a lot of blockbuilding in it (with 42 Mbit/s stream). After 5 to 10 min running VLC crashes.

Sorry, have to leave right now.
Ritschie

Titel: SmartDVB 0.2.5.0 Release Test
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 27 Februar, 2012, 14:13

Quick test looks OK.
Daily use test though should take some time, of course.

BTW, I've just played around with TeleText a bit.
Is there a way, to change TXT font?
The default serif one does not scale properly on TXT window size changes. Wide letters like "m", "M" and "W" may get cut off on both sides.

There also are some smaller issues on focus then, effecting number key entries, and occasionally the TXT outer frame is not changed with the window itself.

You'll find two screeen shots attached.

p.s.
The TXT display frame should be fixed to AR 4:3, both if windows size changed and if maximized / full screen.
So the TXT charakters should also keep AR, according to Windows GUI (only).
If one day TXT display could be done over OSD, of course TXT AR could relate to video frame AR, some way.
As SmartDVB these days is not supposed, to be fully compatible with ye ol' Nexus / SS1 Premium hardware decoding, OSD mem size limitations are gone anyway...
Means, if running SmartDVB in full screen, perhaps an OSD based TXT interface could be implemented, on the way to aq 1.0 release one day.
Including user controllable transparency, or side by side, perhaps.
Like known from good STBs.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 27 Februar, 2012, 14:56

Transponder 11875,11912,11992,12304,12382, is not DVB-S2 QPSK is 8PSK ;a mistake of KingofSAT

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5.0
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 27 Februar, 2012, 15:12

You can edit this manually before scanning.

Anyway, you are correct, quite often there are errors like this in transponder lists from any source.
Depending on the origin, you will not just find occasional errors, but quite often many parameters are even missing (or can't be interpreted properly by SmartDVB).
Results also depend on your tuner's auto detection capabilities.

That's why I am glad to find that direct edit function in SmartDVB scanning interface.  

p.s.

One more little bug, perhaps only effecting me:
The --> "Help" --> "About SmartDVB" message box collides with a special feature of my Labtec Wireless Desktop software, the screen magnifying glass feature.
Opening the About box, activating the magnifier, blocks all kind of mouse action, except of focus changes.
Can only be restored by Ctrl+Alt+Del then.
AFAIK, a message box possibly being (partly) placed above the video frame may require extra powers from the GUI.
Perhaps it would be better, to not use a message box for the About feature, but an ordinary window.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 27 Februar, 2012, 15:38

shame that udp to vlc has problems for you ritschibie, i remember testing this thorougly, but maybe vlc has changed there, have you played a bit with the udp buffer settings to see if that changes things? Fact that you don't get the channel you're tuned to might have to do with VLC when it receives the full TS, depends on what VLC does then, maybe just show the first channel it finds in the ts stream? Streaming a single channel should not produce this ofcourse as only those PID's are sent then, so if you have that there that certainly is a bug.

@ymvmif: what sat are you talking about on those frequencies? I'll change those then...

@jurgen: i'm aware of those ttx problems, made that a long time ago and there was a ttx plugin that worked with smartdvb i remember made afterwards (goldenttx if i remember correctly, was on the old dvbn also) which had more features so i left it a bit after that, although i might update that also in the future as correct char handling for more languages/unicode handling is not there and other things and also as you say font resizing is not always right etc etc, it's quite some work though. But it should be pretty easy to overlay that ttx on a real osd as everything right now should be painted on a device context already (made it what that in mind back then, for that ofcourse you couldn't use a plugin in future, unless it were through some module/plugin structure).

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 27 Februar, 2012, 16:42

okay, jackjavo: I've now reduced the streaming to only one ts-stream (unchecking "stream entire transport stream") and now it runs like a charm. VLC 2.0 is stable with that one transport stream over 30 mins now so it should work smoothless! ZDF HD is showing on smartdvb and in VLC. What I noticed is that changing from "main window" to0 "full window" or "floating window" gives 2 or three short flickers. Is this only on my system or is this generally so? Not in any way embarassing, just a note  ;)

Edit: I checked yvmifis corrections. These frequencies are on Astra 19.2 E. Sky Germany is on these frequencies so a special thank to yvmifi for his corrections!  ;Beifall

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 27 Februar, 2012, 19:48

okay ritchibie, i was assuming you were streaming over wire, were u perhaps using wireless and if so what (with wire at least beaing 100mbit you should not have much problems i think so then it's a smart problem)? In such case i can imagine some video problems with vlc when sending the full ts as maybe your wireless just can't handle that (depends, some good ones should easily)...

Well, if you're using vmr9 some short flickering at the moment is normal, as i did that a while back to prevent some video leftovers that were there when changing aspect with vmr9! (might look at that in the future to see if that cannot be done cleaner,  but until now it works, you just have some short flickering when changing aspect ratio with vmr9, if you're talking about evr you shouldn't have that!

Btw i have a user which reports some scanning problems on some satellite with quite low sr it seems (around 4-3000 ks/s american, if it's that at all) any idea if settings like auto-fec etc would affect things here or other matters (jurgen?), or otherwise why there would be problems there, i know bda has problems with sr below 1000 ks/s, but that's not the case here...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 27 Februar, 2012, 21:10

No, I'm streaming over 127.0.0.1 which is the IP of "my computer". On the contrary, when I stream over my Fritzbox with WLAN, I have no difficulties at all  :) neither with the entire nor with a single transport stream. Sideffect: With the single transport stream you get the figure with how many Mbit/s a HD channel for example streams. ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 27 Februar, 2012, 22:04

oh that's odd ritchibie as i know some users use that locally without issues too (also full ts), but still, most important is that it streams i guess..
with the blindscanner btw you also can see the transponder bandwith etc interesting things to know indeed!
will not be replying anymore tonight, going to bed early had tiresome personal day's here let's say... time to make some decisions.. best regards and till tomorrow!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: moonchild am 27 Februar, 2012, 22:12

Zitat von: jackjavo am 27 Februar, 2012, 19:48

Btw i have a user which reports some scanning problems on some satellite with quite low sr it seems (around 4-3000 ks/s american, if it's that at all) any idea if settings like auto-fec etc would affect things here or other matters (jurgen?), or otherwise why there would be problems there, i know bda has problems with sr below 1000 ks/s, but that's not the case here...

With technotrend s2.1600 i can blindscan 12652 V 3000 on 23.5 E, and watch the channel (some horseracing) with both blindscan and florian bda device.
The card does see a signal at 12641 V 1341, but no pat/cat.
12660 V 477 on 23.5 E gives no signal.

From my experiance low sr transponders are harder to tune, lof drift by lnb does not help at all ;)

BTW, what sat-card is that user using?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 27 Februar, 2012, 22:37

In fact scanning low signal rate (part) transponders is pretty hard to do.
LOF drift / offset is just one possible aspect, but it is important.
This is getting extra hard, if entries in transponder lists aren't precise, and the station scanned before also has a nominal frequency offset.
This leads to an AFT offset in the tuner, and this may stay active partly even on the next tuning attempt.

Did not yet read through BDA specs, as I don't have them here.
Are there standard controls to reset AFT and perhaps also AGC?

Depending on the tuner in use, also the time to get a lock onto a small signal may be noticeably longer.
Timings and type of AFT and AGC circuits are hardware depending.
And due to this, narrow signals of the same field strength may (but not must) result in smaller detector output and by this prolong reaction time. 
In such as case, AutoFEC may need even more time, if the tuner tried to reset gain and fine tuning controls on each switching.
 
For example, lock timing has to be set to at least 8000 ms for my Cinergy S2 HD USB.
For DVB-S2 SCPC this should best be set to 10 000 ms.
But then, I don't have problems on scanning even below 2000 ksps.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 28 Februar, 2012, 10:57

@moonchild: yes the blindscan.dev module should be much better for low sr as crazycat has that covered (also SR rates below 1000 ks/s for which i might add some support lateron in smartdvb as the normal .ini's don't allow for this some kind of exception needs to be made).

Zitat

The --> "Help" --> "About SmartDVB" message box collides with a special feature of my Labtec Wireless Desktop software, the screen magnifying glass feature.

Oh i just see this remarkt, i'll look at this ofcourse, strange, so other dialog's don't do this then (about message is just another dialog, odd)..

Zitat

Are there standard controls to reset AFT and perhaps also AGC?

don't think so never seen them also not in the direct interfaces bda provides (dunno about the newer pbda will check that, but don't think so, bda is rather high level in that sense, hence why crazycat probably had to do things the way he does and is able to do also ofcourse).
Thanks for the info anyways, as i probably can at least disable options like auto-fec on low sr using some threshold there, and also perhaps play with the timeouts when tuning such low SR to allow more locks (maybe even special low sr timeouts for the scanners? or otherwise internal?, at least worth testing and looking at in the future especially now with such a capable low sr interface as most feedhunters will like that and it's not that much work also, also when tuning there are internal timeouts now which are not configurable, maybe i should make them configurable or at least make them dependent on sr too)..

don't have that much time today i'm afraid, but haven't heard many problems as of yet from this test so maybe it's getting there finally after a hecktic period for me, i'm glad about that...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: moonchild am 28 Februar, 2012, 22:45

Well, let me say what a wonderfull job you have done. Can't even start to imagine how much work and effort was involved. Thank you!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 29 Februar, 2012, 01:30

Zitat von: jackjavo am 28 Februar, 2012, 10:57

Zitat

Are there standard controls to reset AFT and perhaps also AGC?

don't think so never seen them also not in the direct interfaces bda provides

This is yet another reason, to avoid switching pola to often on a scan.
Reason is, (multiswitches, cables and) output stage amplifiers often give slightly different gains for each reception plane, and an existing AGC unit had to compensate this, too.
The level before is supposed to be more similar, if taken from the same switching state.
Depending on the hardware in use, AGC may either come from the narrow tuned signal (more or less) or from a wide mix of transponders.
Also possible, some tuners might use a combination of both.
First method is good for the signal intended to tune to, second is used against producing general overdrive and extra mixing products, that might cause interference.
Usually this is not documented anywhere.

But as a TV mechanic I have already seen this on STBs.
Had my meters on several of those over the years.
Good ones may use more than one AGC (detecting) stage.
This is why (total) timings may have to relate with the slowest stage and conditions, at least for DXing.

Modern tuners may use software / firmware emulation for AGC (and AFT) detection, making things even more complicated (and sometimes less reliable).

Suppose, extra timings for SCPC and other low / non standard SR signals are a pretty good idea.  
Another possible way, add extra timings after any kind of switching. Allow AGC and AFT to react...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 29 Februar, 2012, 08:59

Zitat

Another possible way, add extra timings after any kind of switching. Allow AGC and AFT to react.

okay, but this will slow down tuning for sure then especially on cascaded setups where switching is done often (maybe too often atm, still can optimize that i think) (and the current switch delays cannot be used like that?)..

Oh and thanks for that info on SPSC also, didn't realise that, i already thought about adding like multiple timeout selections in the scanner (let's say profile like, so simple timeouts selections like fast/safe/feedhunter/low sr etc whatever that's something simple that can help then and maybe also incorporate that then in the actual tuning) and about SPSC, has already been requested by feedhunters but didn't want to add it yet for this version as it was enough for now, but already know how to implement that with the crazycat so that will be there for sure in the future (even though it's not much used yet i gather, but still sounds like interesting technology, also energy saving wise i heard).

thanks moonchild, i gather you too haven't found much issues then? Well i'll release this this week then if nothing else comes up as my fingers are also starting to itch (don't like all this holding off)! thanks again guys for your help here, i wouldn't have been able to get here without your input and interest in this!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 01 März, 2012, 01:29

Zitat von: jackjavo am 29 Februar, 2012, 08:59

...and the current switch delays cannot be used like that?

Of course they can.
But then scanning may last far longer than necessary, as one had to select the worst case timing as default.

Regarding switching, this could be improved by first scanning all horizontals of a band and position, and then all verticals related.

DiSEqC controls may also require extra time, specially on future hardware, that also uses DiSEqC (only) for pola and band switching.
For sure, this will come one day.
So DiSEqC timings from the settings must start first, if sent at that time. After these are over, or if not used at that time, the lock timing had to start.

Please note, reaching lock state is not always a reliable criterium to stop the timing, as in some rare but real situations, a tuner may lose lock again for a moment, if either AGC or AFT is still adjusting.
This will mainly happen after LOF switching or after leaving a really strong signal for a weak / narrow one.
Though, when tuning to a full / wide transponder, such is not supposed to happen, regardless if the transponder tuned to before was wide or SCPC.

30°W is a good example for a position, that may take benefit from more complex settings, as there are true DX signals there, heading towards the other side of the ocean, but not exactly zero on huge dishes over here, plus tons of ever changing SCPC, and a wide variety of really strong signals with different SR and FEC, all both on DVB-S and DVB-S2.  
As you can see in the Transponder News thread, there are frequent changes on that position, so users have to scan there quite often.
Not effecting me though, as I don't really need that bird. Testing purposes only ATM, and subject to changes at any time.
And for sure I will change some older LNB cables and LNBs for all the same new type occasionally, to reduce level differences.
Once spring time reaches my place and I'll find the time...

To avoid irritating the normal user, perhaps some kind of user profiles may indeed be helpful.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 02 März, 2012, 18:55

okay thanks jurgen, interesting info indeed and i will for sure look at these things and had already thought about more profile like things here and there, and for sure for the timings as such things are also not hard to do..
release is taking a bit longer as some problems have popped up (got reports that the install process was kinda buggy i guess noone including me went back to test that recently so that should be better now, didn't report that stuff here as you guys probably just re-install ofcourse, and also some bandstacked dishpro problems, which ofcourse i also don't have to report here for testing, but other than that nothing new). I'll still send the new current test to anyone that wants it here (not sure if everyone having blindscan problems here with switches has the current fixes for that, i think only moonchild was busy with that and he tested that for me so diseqc 1.1 should work better now also with the blindscanner)..
best regards once again,
jackjavo

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 04 März, 2012, 14:41

I have a little noughty problem:
When I start SmartDVB or change the channel I get thousands of little messageboxes telling me alternately "UpdateEITEventQuery: Error inserting eitevent" and "database disk image is malformed" ... what can I do against that? ???

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 04 März, 2012, 16:46

Lösch doch mal die ´smarteit.db´ im Smartdvb Hauptverzeichnis.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 04 März, 2012, 16:55

Aaaaaaah!  :D
Danke!  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 04 März, 2012, 16:58

Da war bestimmt die Datenbank beschädigt ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 März, 2012, 14:53

hi snoop. Yes this can happen sometimes with sqlite it seems, i not sure anymore if there were internal functions to clear a corrupted db. But in any case the EIT data is always reloaded if you
just remove that file, maybe in such corruption cases i could just ask that in the future and remove those popups which i also have had and are tedious sorry...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 06 März, 2012, 15:27

No problem, SiLæncer's tip was the solution. Now SmartDVB works really flawless! It deserves its name ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 März, 2012, 21:37

hello guys. I have a latest release test here, mainly stability changes (little ones) but anways i'll send it to most here just informing..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 06 März, 2012, 21:46

Many thanks, jackjavo!  :) :) :)

Is it the 0.2.5 final?

greetings
Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 März, 2012, 22:13

Hi richibie,

No not yet i'm sorry to say as small issues keep popping up and i've been urged by let's say some to try to get as much details as possible right this time, and i agree ofcourse as in the  past i was sometimes too quick with these things out of urges to well continue, but this is not a real professional attitude ofcourse (in the past i worked for companies and well there it's obligatory, but before this smart wasn't that well known so i took things easy let's say)..

regards,
jack

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 07 März, 2012, 04:53

My second tuner, Noxon DAB+ used for DVB-T, does not work with this last test version. but it did before, and still does with the previous version.

BTW, I've found tons of registry entries for SmartDVB transponder lists. Why is this?
SmartDVB should find those without the registry, as they are located in a given sub folder.
No other application had to know about this, nor would Windows.
Same goes for SmartDVB special .ax filters, but at least those ain't many.  

And my first installation of SmartDVB was to the default place, C:\<Program Files (x86)>\SmartDVB\Transponders\10296.ini
Uninstalled that one regularily, used C:\SmartDVB instead ever since.
But all the old registry entries are still there, along with the new ones.
Far to many to edit them out manually...

An example is to be seen on my screen shot
 

Scanning on my first position 19.2°E seems to be OK.
Having some issues on the other positions right now, but can't yet specify if those are SmartDVB related or hardware depending, as I'm busy fiddling around with the multiswitches ATM.
And I am still waiting for my 2nd hand satellite spectrum analyzer to arrive, hopefully allowing to specify and solve some nasty level and slope issues then.
Anyway, will try to find out more throughout the next few days, which way ever.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 07 März, 2012, 08:52

Unfortunately, jackjavo, I have to add to Jürgen's comments another one:

I tested for 90 min recording (without the scheduler, manually). After pressing the record knob I sent smartdvb to the task bar (not the tray). After a little bit more than 1 hour smartdvb went into freezing. Menue handling became impossible and clicking on the smartdvb task in the taskbar opened a second smartdvb task in the bar. Something (or something similar) Jürgen observed in an earlier version, I believe. I installed smartdvbrelease into the C:/programs/smartdvb folder.

Edit: I checked Jürgen's registry entry and found this:

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 07 März, 2012, 09:15

morning jurgen :)
Well those transponder registry entries are from the installer (to uninstall i guess). I'm not sure if this can be removed, but i'll check anyways as it has been said before and it's indeed tedious, and didnt' know about those uninstall leftovers you're right you wouldn't want that, so i guess i have to check the installer too thanks for reporting this. And as mentioned before the registry entries for the .ax components are unavoidable i think as that is active-x related let's say.
Sorry about that dvb-t problem, already located that will send you an updated bda.dev and update the install too (due to some lnb-changes i'm sorry, fixes that lead to bugs damn)..
@ritchibie: oh just read your record problem, not much changed there let's hope this was something incidental? I'll test that today too just to be sure..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 07 März, 2012, 13:09

With the new bda device my second tuner is working  again.
Thanks a lot.

Regarding all the registry entries, please have us informed, once that was either uninstalled properly or any other solution found.
As a fat registry is supposed to be one of the main courses for ageing of a Windows installation, I would then find the time, to clean up manually.
Just not over and over again.
On ye ol' Win98, I've been using Norton System Works, to do such clean up semi automatically, but these days this would be waisting money, as that tool set lost most of it's benefits on NT based OS.
Manually doing this is more risky and a pain in the back anyway, so not an option for a frequent routine...

Again, is transponder file registration really necessary, at all? SmartDVB should know about the location anyway, best as a relative path, for possible later portable use.
 

And even filters can come with portable apps, like done on VLC and MPC, AFAIK without touching the registry. A pre defined sub folder structure and relative paths used, this should do the job.
Normally you would not want to make your special filters available system wide, except if a second of your products could use them occasionally.
However, the filters are just a side aspect with no priority, at all.

Specially for comparison of test versions, this could also prevent strange and hard to detect interference between those.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 07 März, 2012, 18:06

Zitat

Regarding all the registry entries, please have us informed, once that was either uninstalled properly or any other solution found.

I've actually on purpose made this let's say 'permanent' in the installer so that when re-installed smartdvb over the previous version older (and perhaps changed, modified by user) .ini's are retained. But this means that if smartdvb is installed elsewhere, or first uninstalled and then re-installed elsewhere these entries remain in the registry. Simple solution is to not make them permanent for now, on uninstall older .ini registry entries (which are created by the ms installer) will be removed (and you'll also loose old lists with changes in such case as new ones will always be installed). Easy and better for now or is loosing older changed .ini's (with perhaps feeds) too much of a problem??

jj

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 07 März, 2012, 23:35

Again, I am not talking about the ini files, just the registry entries for those.

Transponder files and settings, channel database and alike, being part of some kind of an individual profile, should normally be kept on an update, no doubt.
But AFAIK this is not depending on having them mentioned in the registry, if SnartDVB simply looks along the relative path.

However, this gave me yet another idea:
Why not create a profile subfolder system, with all the individual / changing data inside, that won't be touched on updates normally?
Similar to modern (portable) browsers and mailers...

Could even be done for transponder files.
For example, if an ini existed in the profile, this one was to be used.
Updates could then come from the web or NIT, as usual, or alternatively defaults chosen from the original transponders folder.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 08 März, 2012, 09:48

Zitat

Again, I am not talking about the ini files, just the registry entries for those.

Oh sorry i was also actually talking about the registry entries, see i wasn't clear, but the installer kind of creates and removes those when they are installed or de-installed by the ms installer (and as i said making them permanent makes the ms installer not remove the files or registry entries.

Zitat

Why not create a profile subfolder system, with all the individual / changing data inside, that won't be touched on updates normally?
Similar to modern (portable) browsers and mailers...

Yes i'll see about doing this when i move all the stuff from the program files to the normal dir in windows 7 for this (i think then we also won't need amin anymore) so i hope to do these things too in future (darn). Oh and i'll check you're right i think not all .ax need to be external right now, but i think it's just the way i made it initially, and evenso, registration/unregister could be done on the fly by the app ensuring it is portable or runnable in such cases (assuming also all vs2010 libraries etc are there on the system).

And i like this idea of a seperate usage profile where you put let's say touched .ini's without touching the original perhaps, just using that as a base, had not thought of that but seems interesting to me yes and a bit of a solution for these re-installs and changed files (also now for example the settings.ini is made permanent for the same reasons as .ini as not to loose changes and thus settings in this case)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 08 März, 2012, 20:44

Hat schon jemand ausprobiert, ob die neue Version einwandfrei läuft, wenn sie während der Aufnahme in die task bar minimiert wird? Bei mir verlor sie jetzt 2x die Bedienbarkeit (nach etwa einer Stunde war nur noch der screen zu sehen, die Menues waren nicht mehr bedienbar). Das kann ja an meiner Vista task bar liegen, wäre aber interessant, ob es in anderen BS auch abschmiert.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 08 März, 2012, 22:26

@richibie: i myself tested this a bit and didn't see it. I'm getting a new update ready will send it to you asap to see if you still have this. Hope it's not coz of the rebuild with the new system setup, might be a tricky thing to find then as i for sure didn't change anything in the video or stream handling concerning bda.dev (are u sure for example ur still using direct tuning etc as before, probably as you prolly just did a re-install)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 09 März, 2012, 00:37

Seperate usage profile and untouched original .ini's might also allow, to sort transponder entries automatically into the user specific database / ini, to speed up scanning by avoiding frequent switching and by this unnecessary long timings.
As mentioned before, scan all low band horizontals, then all the low band verticals and so on.
So no need for Full DiSEqC controls in between, in most cases no AGC nor AFT stabilisation required.
This way, just having three long switching delays on a full Ku band position or a single one on C band, shorter frequency only changing in betweeen.


Long recordings in minimized state can't be tested here 'till tuesday, as I will be out most of the time before.

Lange Aufnahmen in minimiertem Zustand kann ich hier leider nicht vor Dienstag testen, weil ich bis dahin kaum zuhause sein werde.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 09 März, 2012, 11:13

hi jurgen. Yes i will try to incorporate some sorting after the release on the normal list in any case, not that hard to do also ofcourse. Hope to get a new update out today hopefully with less issues, btw good think i haven't released this yet as things keep popping up, mostly non satellite related (atsc, dvb-t etc) or card related, others than the ones used here mostly....

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 09 März, 2012, 13:11

Hi jackjavo,

I've included here most of my settings for your info. I made some tests today. Recording with smartdvb in the taskbar resulted after 1 hour+ in a frozen program. Sending it to the tray resulted in a program crash after 30 min.

Greetings
Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 09 März, 2012, 14:46

okay thanks ritchibie: and do you remember if any of these settings are different as compared to when you ran those long tests without probs? Those osd elements, were they being shown or not at that time (as i did run a test longer than an hour after your previous post about this and didnt' see a problem, i'll try to do some more today then)?

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 09 März, 2012, 17:23

Sorry jackjavo but I cannot remember anymore. At those times I tried (including OSD) many settings so I cannot single out one specifically (EVR/no EVR/VR 9, etc.). As none of the users here reported any similar "misbehaviour" I'm inclined to think about something peculiar in my system. I suspect that maybe the DVBViewer Recording System may play a role. Of course, this is only a wild speculation.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 09 März, 2012, 18:49

okay ritchibie, thanks. I've sent you the latest tests (.exe and bda.dev) i have here to see if this is still there, running some tests now also here..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 10 März, 2012, 22:55

Thx, jackjavo. I) received and copied the new files into the smartdvb directory. Today I had 4 tests running:

a) minimizing smartdvb to the tray and
b) minimizing it to the task bar

Whereas a) left the program stable (1x over 3 hrs, 1x over 2 hours), I got a complete freeze of the program in the task bar (1x with task bar not fixed and 1x with a fixed task bar). The task bar problem could well be a problem isolated to my system as long as no other user runs into the same difficulties. For me the option is simple: I will check the "minimize to tray" option in the general settings. Nevertheless, even in the taskbar there was some progress: First I had not the smart icon wandering around in the task bar as befrore and the graphics of the frozen program were all there in the window incl. menues, etc..

It was a long testing day, Good Night

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 14 März, 2012, 17:01

hi ritchibie and others: sorry for the delay but i'm having personal issues let's say out of my control and needs (it seems not the entire world is happy that smartdvb exists or maybe even i myself).
but anyways, i did some longer tests as i was frustrated by this, and it seems something that didn't happen for sure in the build before the new system let's say so i guess even rebuilding this with the same compiler on a new system leads to small differences, dunno why yet so that's also the reason i'm keeping this longer just to be sure nothing else pops up. I'm sending you a new test for smartdvb.exe and bda.dev with some changes concerning the recording in task bar (not tray icon bar) with changes alike for the tray icon i made before hoping this will solve the long recording stability problem (i did test it some and it seemed okay for me, i actually saw  some log messages concerning enhanced video renderer errors after long recording with the app in the task bar, which is odd, but well)..

best regards,
JJ

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 14 März, 2012, 17:10

Don't worry - take your time, manage your business ... SmartDVB is a great piece of software right as it is now! Noone will get hurt if it last's a bit longer ...

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 15 März, 2012, 11:39

Thanks for the upgrade jackjavo which I installed late yesterday. This morning I started recording minimizing it to the taskbar. Left smartdvb for 2 hrs. 30 min durin recording in the taskbar and had no problems with screen or program freezing. Very "smart" the new version  :)

A small issue is still the option "Disable screensaver" which on my system simply does'nt work.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 16 März, 2012, 13:48

okay ritschibie, that's good at least, i'm sending you a next update (install this time again) with also a little change in screensaver disable code, with me this always worked strangely enough so let's see. Other than that maybe just see if bda.dev still works okay for you and others as there are again some american atsc changes there (busy with bugs there) for cable-clear (qam) etc..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 16 März, 2012, 14:33

Okay, thx very much jackjavo. With modern LED-monitors rarely somebody uses the screensaver nowadays  ;) . I just use it to scan for virusses in idle mod. But I tried the screensavers from MS to and got the same result.

Sorry to ask again silly questions: I noticed that everytime I change channel the volume level gets down to zero. Is this a feature of the program (i.e. was it programmed like this for purpose?) or does it work like this only on my computer?

Regards
Ritschie

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 16 März, 2012, 17:29

hi ritschibie: no for sure this is not programmed like that ofcourse, i would look at your current audio renderer and perhaps also audio settings in windows 7 especially (maybe mixer settings etc, i remember from long ago i had some issues there too which i resolved that way, in my current new install never had those problems)..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 16 März, 2012, 21:31

Yes jackjavo, I fumbled a bit with the different audio renderers and now it's ok!  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 16 März, 2012, 21:39

yeah! :) did you get the new install correctly sometimes dvbcube is quite slow in posting stuff and i wont say i'll release this soon anymore lol

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 17 März, 2012, 11:25

No, jackjavo, the new install did not come to my cube-post.office  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 17 März, 2012, 11:35

I did and a first short test was quite positive! You are doing a marvellous job!  ;Beifall ;Beifall ;Beifall ;Beifall

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 17 März, 2012, 14:40

Yes  :jo

´test4´ looks very good for me too :D

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 17 März, 2012, 14:44

I am recovered from the hospital back

and is there which new ?????


yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 17 März, 2012, 16:35

okay sorry then ritchibie (this site has a delay of 60 secs or something when wanting to send multiple pm's, using the bcc or something don't always work correctly for me it seems), and when going back from that message the posts don't succeed too etc, so sometimes just bothersome sorry. You should have it now you too yvmifi and yes field reports are postive so far so i guess i'm not yet loosing my mind. Just waiting for those american reports which as of yet does not work so still some time needed.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 17 März, 2012, 21:05

Yes jackjavo, I received it this afternoon and will right now make a test run. Will report soon  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 17 März, 2012, 21:30

Made two tests for the screensaver blocking of smartdvb. Screensaver set to 5 min respectively. First one I checked after 5 min 05: no screensaver action. Second test I checked after 7 min: no screensaver in action. Congratulations: it works on Vista32  :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 17 März, 2012, 21:52

okay then, still don't get why i never had this issue.. have not had a single bad report about this test so far (excluding americans which are on a different timezone ofcourse and probably doing shopping atm) so i'll still wait a bit more, but i'm quite pleased until now after all these personal ehhr issues :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: moonchild am 17 März, 2012, 21:57

Looks great testing crazycat interface, no problems. Some stuff that i wait for after the release. Have to test bda, but don't expect any trouble there.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 17 März, 2012, 22:33

hoi moonchild :). Yes i know many things can still be added to that blindscanner without too much efforts as the difficult part is done already, i liked your preview video idea and that will be looked at for sure!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 18 März, 2012, 14:09

I have a problem with indicate the Caid:

in SmartDVB is for Sky german Caid 5890 Betacrypt  correctly is 1702 
                                         Caid 2500 Videogard  correctly is 09c4   
the EMM`s ist correctly
can change this? or there is a table to compares
otherwise SmartDVB for me is perfect! complement for your work!!!!!!
thanks thanks thanks thanks

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 18 März, 2012, 14:15

5890 = Dez

1702 = Hex

but its the same ..... also for the videogard caid ...  ;)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 18 März, 2012, 17:08

SiLæncer  thanks

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 18 März, 2012, 22:25

ahh i see you already got the answer from silencer yvmifi, it's all in decimals now (as i thought most users are not that programming savvy let's say), but adding a hex/dec toggle option has been requested and i'll probalby do that in the future as most of this info you find on the net is indeed in HEX so kinda cumbersome ..

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 19 März, 2012, 09:55

jackjavo

It is not a large problem! all Cams recognizes caids!!!!

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 06 April, 2012, 17:08

hello all,
i've send an update hopefully to all here, should be the last one as i've decided to not wait anymore for some american features that were being tested and holding this back (atsc-qam and some band-stacked problems, but i hope that will probably be resolved by some other american users in future). I'd like to know if standard tuning works okay still, also on which card.
best regards,
jj

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: SiLæncer am 06 April, 2012, 17:14

Hi jack ,

thx for the Update :)

For me its looks good...i don´t have any tuning problems with my Technotrend or Terratec Card (both are in my sig )

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: dada am 06 April, 2012, 22:29

Hi Jack,

can you send me the update too? I can test with a Tevii USB.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Jürgen am 06 April, 2012, 22:45

Hello Jack

Just played around with your latest update for an hour or two.
Here it's working fine was well.
Tuning and scanning are OK on both tuners.

Were there any other components changed, that may need more testing?
If so, please provide us with details.

I am planning to do some more changes on my dish set and multiswitches soon, and of course I am trying to avoid changing more than one part, hardware or software, at a time, as else any debugging might get pretty hard.
And playing around with the LNBs and cables on the roof should only be done when the weather is acceptable.

Plus, I am awaiting delivery of two DiSEqC 1.1 8/1 switches, on Saturday or Tuesday. Though, this is not weather related, as they are to be placed inside.

Means, all new software tests may be delayed for a couple of days here.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: ritschibie am 06 April, 2012, 23:14

Hi jackjavo,

I installed the new files in my programs\smartdvb folder. On my Technotrend S-2 3200 I had no problem at all tuning in Astra as well as Hotbird channels (incl. via cam/card). As Jürgen wrote, if you are interested in special testings please, leave a note. I will indipendently test the new exe and bda.dev in the fields of scanning and recording. Thx for your hard work!

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: yvmifi am 07 April, 2012, 09:08

Hi jackjavo,!

Thanks,thanks,thanks

all work fine.I have no problem--it is realy good.

yvmifi

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 07 April, 2012, 11:59

Looks pretty good so far :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 08 April, 2012, 19:28

Last night a did a long test (let Smart run all night ;) ) and when I came back, it stuttered. Restarting helped. That was after 9 hours ... cannot say, when it started.

Edit: The 2,5 hours recording went fine :)

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: jackjavo am 13 April, 2012, 10:31

i've been looking at this stuttering (maybe this was also something introduced with the rebuild). Can you see if using the reload video on freeze helps in such cases (as to automatically reload the channel). Also one thing to try would not use timeshift in such case as i have the feeling the problem may lie there. Might be hard to reproduce ofcourse.

Titel: Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 RC 1
Beitrag von: Snoop am 13 April, 2012, 13:31

I did not use timeshift - it's off all time, as I do not need it. I just recorded a movie late at night.