Thema: SmartDVB 0.3.0 RC

[jackjavo]

it's the normal cycle of the universe, in the end we're all dust from super nova's it seems (it also seems there's special unknown matter particle with predisposition to racism, it still needs to be discovered) our sun is a puny tiny short-lived st*r anyhow, for that matter it would've been better if it were a red sun coz then we'd have much more time also to develop soft

Odd for me ttx ciphers just operate. Could you look at ur kb options nd see if the 0-9 kb remote keys r mapped to 0-9? I cleaned the code up to just use remote kb options (for sure sosd ttx should be like that, cud it be you altered that or that those 0-9 maps r not installed by default?

Ok, s*b pages r not  clickable yet. I noticed the same exit issue (excuses bout that, spend too much time at debug mode/break etc i didn't even notice it, simple issue) . I'll send .exe update bout that, but first some nurrishment
Lol, the 5001 issue is coz at first i allowed like Milliseconds there but later decided seconds would be better at later pre beta (might also be why it never seemed to vanish)

br,
jack

[Snoop]

I have to report a small problem:

When quitting SmartDVB, the exe file still stays active in the task manager. I have to kill it manually to restart SmartDVB.

[jackjavo]

current build sent once more (bcc).

exit problem should be fixes (excuses once more bout that, should've looked at that ..
took more time coz ttx s-page clicks somehow were not so simple like i thought before, but u should be able to click at them now..

also background ttx issue should also be better (although like jurgen told not very urgent but still)..
also ttx/dvb titles at window mode were also not correct (wrong place etc)...
once more, ttx ciphers r now coupled only to remote '0-9' so if that still don't operate it'll have to be looked at..

well gonna see if i´m able to find some super nova dust to do some research, the more games these dutchies play the more curious i´m getting to find out from which remote star at the universe they might have emerged with that special particle, i'm quite sure god made a horrendous error somewhere there, might just be he's willing to rectificate

br,
jj

[moonchild]

Hi Jack, great to see that u r back on developing smartdvb Curious about the new OSD, some screenshots possible?

[Jürgen]

Now here is my short report on the endoftheworldasweknowit 12/21 version:

- SmartDVB.exe closes properly again

- now mouse left click onto a non link area of TTX screen does not act as P- anymore

- number keys of the alphanum section are working again, on the TTX window
But on SmartOSD still no way to enter numbers here, and NUM block numbers still don't work, neither with NUM lock on nor off.
I have all key definitions on default, except of Q originally being used twice there, so I've set I for Info.

BTW, I've just noticed, if teaching in a keyboard key, NUM LOCK state would be added if active, even for normal letters. This is not helpful.
And perhaps it's one reason for NUM block number keys not working on SmartOSD TTX here.
Maybe we need a double set of numbers in keyboard settings then, for main area and NUM block separately.

Semi graphics have improved very much. Could just find a little cosmetic issue left.
See my screenshot attached. I have marked two false black blocks in red there.
Taken from "Das Erste HD" on Astra 19.2E 11493 H 22000

BTW, there is another little TTX issue, possibly timing related.
Check the fast changing P 666 on "NDR FS HH HD" Astra 19.2E 11582 H 22000
This page changes every four to five seconds, and similar to a subs page, it does not use normal sub pages.
Both TTX versions can't display all the ~6 rotating pages in the row.
No missing sequences on subs pages instead, but normally those would only have two or three lines of content.
But the fast changing P 666 mentioned has full size pages.

Plus, still the char set used changes frequently, like between Western and Turkish.
Means, German special letters as ä, ö, ü change to something like "1/4" or alike and back, after some seconds.
You may watch this happening pretty often on P 100 on "Das Erste HD", for example.

Extra questions:

- Opening OSD channel list by use of key "C", how can I leave that OSD list then?

- Found colour keys defined in keyboard settings. Obviously those are used for that OSD channel list.
Do you plan to introduce the usual colour key functions and / or TTX switches for FastText style controls in the lowest line of the TTX screen?

[off-topic]The kind of star we have directly relates to the speed of our carbon based biochemics, live and evolution.
Guess with a different star out there, we also would be different, and perhaps our different time scale would make us feel to have exactly the same life time available then.
I am sure, even a red star would be seen as white then, for naturally different eyes.
We are not exactly star dust, we are made from the ashes, that evolved from the blown away outer areas of that super nova.
And the star that exploded and spread all the heavier elements, that formed our planet and traces of those even exist on the surface of our sun, already was partly made from such recycled matter as well.

And our earth and sun both have my full sympathy, as again they proved, they don't care about any human made calendars.
Same goes for all the other planets and stars, that don't exist and move to change our fate and don't even know about all that nasty astrology stuff...[/off-topic]

Best regards

Jürgen

[Snoop]

I can confirm the first two findings of Jürgen.

Thanks! You are doing a great job!

[jackjavo]

kb issue with sosd ttx 's odd. Snoop u have that too? For me it operates. Question wrt that, do other kb shortcuts (like UP/down or left/right for pages/s*ub pages resp. operate? If so that might narrow the search for me.

I noticed the 666 refresh issue (thought it might b meant like that, but if it's like u mention it's issue for sure). I'll also look at other ttx issues.

U should b able to exit sosd station list with 'C' once more or with exit/back (also settable at kb/remote options). If that don't operate it's issue. Also the colour kb keys also should be defined already, so once more if kb ciphers don't operate for u there might be same related problem. Do you also have kb issue when operating sosd epg with kb?

Interested to know if others here also have seem sosd ttx kb issue???

'Nd yes it's quite mindboggling to realise that somewhere else at the universe beings might be living a life time at timespans that for us might be 3 seconds or whatever, makes u realise it's all relative nd we all aint' god even if we might imagine us being some kind of uberbeing

br,
j
br nd tx once more!
j

[Snoop]

The TTX module doesn't take any numerical input on my PC, not from the num pad and not from the keys above the letters.
Also the focus switches away from the TTX to the main window very fast.

[jackjavo]

odd, nd if you look at tools/settings/input/keyboard the 0-9 kb maps r correct set to 0-9? Other kb (left/right) etc operate at module?

[jackjavo]

i've sent u both current .exe with alterations wrt sosd ttx issue (now 0-9 ciphers at normal ttx window should operate anyhow, but at SmartOSD module only maps from tools/settings/input/keyboard (0-9/up/down/left/right/red/green/yellow/blue) r accepted. Difficult to replicate coz unable to reproduce here...

[Snoop]

Numerical input now works, if I click ON the frame. If I click INTO the frame, the focus is lost to the main window.

[jackjavo]

current build sent, not all's done but ndr 666 looks ok, also some alterations to kb at osd, num-block for me still operates but now only num kb (like suggested).  If issue with sosd ttx not altered try to alter focus to see if kb then reacts (cut b focus rel. issue)...
br,
j
ps: also ttx sosd stable operation cut b affected coz ttx drawn more often then prv at current build...

[Snoop]

Focus and Numpad are working now! 

[Jürgen]

Also tested the latest .exe now.

Recent (focus) issues on TTX window have gone, all numeric keys are working, regardless of main area or NUM block.

Regarding SmartOSD TTX, numeric keys on the main area are OK again.

Plus, I have found a way now, to also activate NUM block keys for SmartOSD TTX.
Had to teach in all numbers (0 to 9) by NUM block keys instead.
Screen shot added.
So now I can control SmartOSD pages from the num block.
And TTX window still also works fine then.

n.b.
I am starting my computer with NUM LOCK activated by BIOS, like most users with a full size keyboard and a mouse attached normally would.
And by definition, NUM block key addresses are different from main area number keys.
That's why CAPS LOCK active or Alt GR pressed would not effect the NUM block keys.  
So perhaps also SmartDVB key maps should allow to handle the two different kinds of number keys differently, specially as SmartOSD obviously does anyway.
There must be a basic difference in number handling between TTX window and SmartOSD TTX, but key map controls don't know about this.

- but how exactly could I select sub pages (cached) by keyboard?
Mouse click links do work well now.


P 666 issue is gone, every frame is shown now.

Frequent charset changing on a static page issue on both TTX version still exists. Obviously around one out of three refreshes uses a wrong char set. Next one normally is OK then.
Must be timing related some way.

EPG controls and charset seem to be fine, as before. But I am not using this all to often.

To explain my ideas on colour TTX keys and links, see my second screen shot, taken from TerraTec Home Cinema.
This is about the bottom line, carrying four colour segments, which are FastText (and / or TOP Text? Don't remember precisely now) mode links and relate with the four colour keys on a normal TV remote.
Linked page addresses are supposed to come from an extra Table Of Pages being transmitted, if my memory treats me well.
Last time I had to take care for this on my job was about 20 years ago...
SmartDVB does not show that line (here), nor would it use the function behind, by use of the colour keys already mapped.

Best regards

Jürgen

[Snoop]

One little thing about TTX: I think it uses the wrong coding, german Umlauts are not shown correctly. Is there a setting with which I can change the coding?