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SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta3 Update (leaked)
« Antwort #30 am: 15 März, 2011, 14:15 »
SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta3

    * Fixed: issue where when selecting another device the initial reloading of the channel didn't work correct the first time.
    * Added: Simple support for device auto-detect and switching on channel changes (single dvb-s/c/t atsc device auto switch supported). Only tested switching dvb-s and dvb-t devices.
    * Fixed: scheduler records were failing if guide event name was used as filename and a channel change was required.
    * Added: DVB subtitles support, needs testing please report any issues (only visible with vmr/evr renderers). You'll need to rescan for dvb subs to show up.
    * Added: Some interface changes as it's not necessary anymore to maintain compatibility with pre xp systems.
    * Fixed: more scheduler fixes, when restarting application through scheduler correct channel was not always selected.
    * Fixed: some optimizations to the channel list handling which should speed up the loading of expanded channel lists.
    * Fixed: an mdapi issue with mdplug not working correctly (maybe will also allow more plugins to run better).
    * Fixed: some robustness changes.
    * Added: some twinhan/azureware specific settings for tuning and diseqc to bda.dev (Florian) if you find your card works with other settings than the default please be so kind to let me know which settings worked for you so i can update the auto-tuning code and in such case also send me your bda.log (in the devices directory) so i can see the excact name of your card.
    * Added: fullscreen option on startup (actually after the first successful tune this will be done).
    * Fixed: crc check retries when scanning. This might help when scanning low signal transponders.
    * Added: additional time in minutes (under record options) for scheduled tasks. These will be automatically added/substracted when adding a task through epg.
    * Added: username/password schedule option. Although for now it seems you should always schedule your tasks with win7 as the admin account as smart still needs to be run as administrator. For scheduling to work for any user under win7 using the ms task scheduler i will have to update the app to run under any user in the future or create my own task scheduler.
    * Fixed: problem with large sized timeshift buffers.
    * Added: basic UDP streaming to vlc and maybe other players that support this. Only tested with vlc please let me know your findings with this if you try it.
    * Fixed: Language handling changed to allow usage of translation of older versions. If resources in the used language dll are out of date the app will default to the .exe resources. Not 100% sure i've got everything covered here so let me know if you encounter problems.
    * Fixed: some changes to epg handling.

Dieses Update setzt eine installierte Beta 2 vorraus ;)

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SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 4
« Antwort #31 am: 09 Mai, 2011, 13:06 »
Changelog:

Zitat
v0.2.1 beta 4 (beta version bumped up because internal build was mistakenly released as beta3).

Fixed: issue where when selecting another device the initial reloading of the channel didn't
work correct the first time.
Added: Simple support for device auto-detect and switching on channel changes
(single dvb-s/c/t atsc device auto switch supported). Only tested switching dvb-s and
dvb-t devices.
Fixed: scheduler records were failing if guide event name was used as filename and a channel
change was required.
Added: DVB subtitles support, needs testing please report any issues (only visible with vmr/evr
renderers). You'll need to rescan for dvb subs to show up.
Added: Some interface changes as it's not necessary anymore to maintain compatibility with pre
xp systems.
Fixed: more scheduler fixes, when restarting application through scheduler correct channel
was not always selected.
Fixed: some optimizations to the channel list handling which should speed up the loading
of expanded channel lists.
Fixed: an mdapi issue with mdplug not working correctly (maybe will also allow more plugins to
run better).
Fixed: some robustness changes.
Added: some twinhan/azureware specific settings for tuning and diseqc to bda.dev (Florian)
if you find your card works with other settings than the default please be so kind
to let me know which settings worked for you so i can update the auto-tuning code
and in such case also send me your bda.log (in the devices directory) so i can
see the excact name of your card.
Added: fullscreen option on startup (actually after the first successful tune this will be done).
Fixed: crc check retries when scanning. This might help when scanning low signal transponders.
Added: additional time in minutes (under record options) for scheduled tasks. These will
be automatically added/substracted when adding a task through epg.
Added: username/password schedule option. Although for now it seems you should always
schedule your tasks with win7 as the admin account as smart still needs to be
run as administrator. For scheduling to work for any user under win7 using the ms
task scheduler i will have to update the app to run under any user in the future or
create my own task scheduler.
Fixed: problem with large sized timeshift buffers.
Added: basic UDP streaming to vlc and maybe other players that support this. Only tested
with vlc please let me know your findings with this if you try it.
Fixed: Language handling changed to allow usage of translation of older versions. If resources
in the used language dll are out of date the app will default to the .exe resources.
Not 100% sure i've got everything covered here so let me know if you encounter problems.
Fixed: some changes to epg handling. Including some more iso processing for among others turkish
/arabic/hebrew/greek and some more.
Fixed: Signal measuring in bda.dev changed somewhat and some fixes to the direct tuning.
Added: ffdecsa internal decoding now, no more need for ffdecsa.dll. Still need to fine-tune
this. If you can please report if this is still as efficient as previous versions
concerning cpu usage etc. Decided to do this as ffdecsa.dll was causing problems
on win 7 system as it sometimes did not load for unknown reasons.
Added: multi monitor support (for main, floating and fullscreen mode), needs testing.
Added: force lnb power on/off on device startup/close, useful at least for prof cards, only
implemented in bda.dev (Florian).
Fixed: some more fixes to epg iso handling.
Fixed: bugfix in diseqc handling with commited/uncommited switches.
Added: app can now be started with scheduler command line parameters (see task info for scheduler task for command
possibilities)
Fixed: some fixes to dvb subtitles handling for polish streams.
Fixed: some issues with vplug not working properly in some cases.
Fixed: some changes to commited diseqc handling. Diseqc option 'send diseqc on each channel change' has been changed to
'send diseqc on each transponder change'. If you use commited switches and have problems switching during
scanning please turn this option on and see if things work better. Many thanks to moonlight for his help during
testing.
Fixed: moving timeshift buffer and starting mpg recording was broken, hopefully fixed now.
Changed: diseqc handling on add sat dialog when seleting the goto sat option has been changed to also
reflect any settings correctly.
Added: tevii implementation using the tevii sdk to bda.dev, including remote. This will be used for standard as well as
direct tuning as it should be the fastest with tevii cards anyway.
Fixed: some longstanding issues with inserting the null filter (for osd viewing when no channel is able to be loaded)
no header found messages.Let me know your findings with this.
Fixed: some changes to the old osd filter and also some 'no header' messages which could result from using this.
Decided to look at this old filter i made as it perhaps can be used for 3d support (although it will produce
high cpu in such case as no dxva support for h264 is there yet).
Added: if null filter configured smart will try to show it also on radio channels now so the song name and
signal can be seen and osd operations can be done.
Changed: some changes to ts recording including stripping the saved PAT (previously the entire original PAT was saved, this
might make the ts records more compatible with more players, hopefully this doesn't break anything).
Changed: tried to remove all dependencies to older visual studio libraries. Just in case the setup.exe installs the
vs 2010 runtime libraries, but i hope this will not be needed and you simply can install the .msi
Fixed: Some more fixes to multimon support due to user reports.

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SmartDVB 0.2.1 Beta 5 erschienen
« Antwort #32 am: 26 November, 2011, 17:14 »
Ok ...Leute ...die aktuelle Beta 5 ist nun für jedermann verfügbar :)

Changelog :

Fixed: skystar.dev was having some issues with older 2.3 cards.
Fixed: null filter changes had broken radio channels when not using that filter, sorry.
Fixed: teletext subtitle pages parsing was not detecting pages correctly. Also by
default the detected subtitle page will be shown in the select subpage dialog.
Fixed: some changes to discontinuity handling. Looks to improve playing low quality
streams with at least the cyberlink codecs for me, let me know your findings
if you can.
Fixed: some EPG handling fixes.
Fixed: Some more scheduling fixes to prevent failed (small file size) records.
Fixed: some changes to stream state handling, might prevent freezes when graph is
in transitive state when changing monitors etc.
Fixed: Updated tbs cards support to include latest cards, tested (on xp) with a TBS 6922
DVB-S2 PCI-E blindscan card and seems to work fine. If you have a tbs card that doesn't
work correctly let me know. Some blindscan support will probably be added in
upcoming versions, didn´t want to do it yet as i want to get this version out asap.
Added: Support for anysee devices to bda.dev, untested.
Added: Channel reload option to video popup menu.
Changed: Reworked the scanner dialog again a bit to show more channels/messages.
Fixed: mouse hiding in evr fullscreen mode was not working all the time.
Fixed: putting main window on top at startup was not working correctly.
Fixed: Fullscreen mode at startup was not working correctly in combination with the multimon code.
Tried to fix this, needs testing.
Fixed: Many changes to the multimon code, also needed to rework the fullscreen/floating code.
Looked almost ready in beta 4 but proved to be a real problem as stress-testing it
(multiple mon changes) always resulted in an unstable renderer (and thus smartdvb)
and i simply could not find this issue.This is still the main reason why this beta 5
is there so if you could test this and report problems i'll try to get the final 0.2.1
out asap and move on to other things.
Added: Support for textual dvbsubtitles. Untested.
Fixed: window maximize button was not working anymore.
Changed: updated allsats.txt and european satellite transponder lists (.ini) thanks to cjcr.
Added: new transponder sync option in scanner dialog using satfeeds.info. This will synchronize
with blindscanned transponder lists supplied by cjcr.
Added: option for extra transport stream buffering in general options.
Fixed: a bug when minimizing the app to the taskbar (not tray) and closing it from there,
correct window positions were not saved in such situation (thanks to cjcr for finding this).
Fixed: The goto sat button in the add frequencies dialog was not working correclty anymore due
to recent diseqc changes.
Changed: some changes to bda.dev to make cards like tbs6925 work (scan on these cards was producing
a hang). Many thanks to mr orbita for his help and information on this.
Changed: added sat name to properties dialog caption so when on favs you also know what
sat the channel is on (thanks to cjcr for pointing this out).
Fixed: Added some extra H264 checks mainly to fix BBC HD channels aspect ratio's, maybe this
also works for other HD channels with broken start aspect?. Not sure if
the sequence parameter set etc parsing is entirely correct here as i seem to see
strange values (like PicWidthInMbs of 1 etc, and also no VUI parameters, can't find that described
in standards, so i hacked a bit around it? only for the HD high profile though have never seen
low res h264 streams here)
Added: Added snap to edges for main/floating as i find that handy and it also had been requested
quite a bit.
Added: A version number to settings.ini to check for specific upgrade actions in future. Due to multimon
changes the logic in the windows coordinates could fail when installing from 0.2.1 beta 5 onwards over
previous versions. This is not a bug but the window is simply hidden using wrong coordinates.
If you still have this after install remove the window coordinates from settings.ini (in settings
directory), These are the values to remove : [Startup]
windowx=86
windowy=62
windowwidth=1428
windowheight=929
And the app should startup with some default windows coordinates that are visible.
Don't remove the '[startup]' btw :), and neither the version number anytime.
Changed: Some changes to smartavsrc.ax (codecs like LAV now work reasonable (sometimes video freezes with EVR
quick connect options turned on, nothing that a reload doesn't solve, for me also in sync).
Added: Added 'show satellite name before favorite name' option to the channel list properties dialog (useful
if All sats are selected).
Changed: Some more safeguards built in just in case the problems with tbs cards could cause problems for
other cards.
Changed: layout of some dialogs.
Added: the main window can now be moved on other surfaces besides the window caption.
Fixed: bug when selecting none as group and provider as sort in channel list properties
(thanks to a user whose nick i don't know who reported this :)
Changed: scanner has problems with some users sometimes, might be timing problems on fast scanning/tuning in
a row so quite some changes there to try to make it more robust. It might be prudent to add
a configurable delay before tuning the next transponder to the scanner so users
can finetune this.
Fixed: mouse hiding wasn't working correctly anymore on other renderers (i test mainly on EVR nowadays,
tested on vmr9 now too).
Fixed: parsing of some transponder .ini files failed on 16apsk/32apsk modulations.
Changed: some changes in bda.dev as some video problems may stem from there. Remade the sync code
in bda.dev as it was somewhat different than for example bdas.dev has and for me
bdas.dev seemed to produce more stable picture as that also works better with my prof7500.
Changed: now modulation is also shown in the frequency list sync dialog.
Fixed: again some mouse problems (mouse dissapearing and such) when using vmr9 renderer.
Changed: some more work on continuity of stream in smartdvb and bda.dev to try to make
the video run smoother with some codecs on broken streams.
Changed: some more changes, hopefully tbs cards still work okay now as i reverted some of the
changes there as some delays were maybe causing glitches even on fta channels with
which smart never had much problems lately.
Changed: vmr osd showing is now delayed until some video is in (before it could dissapear
too quickly if no video was received for a while after the tune).
changed: some more changes to multimon especially for vmr9. One tester experiences error
messages (decidebuffer) on xp using vmr9. So if you experience that too please report this
as then i'll make this a priority.
changed: some general robustisation, or at least i hope in the long run, also in the tuning
process and more bda.dev changes.
changed: removed the installation of the vs2010 redistributable package from the setup as
installing the msi should be enough.
Added: lav decoder to filters.ini for setup.

Download : www.smartdvb.net/smartdvb/download/SmartDVB021Beta5.rar

Läuft mittlerweile wirklich gut ...auch wenn ich da unter XP bei Verwendung des VMR 9 Renderer noch Probleme im Multimonitorbetrieb habe ...was aber wohl an meiner mittlerweile doch recht alten XP Installation liegt ...sprich ..wahrscheinlich ist da das Direktshow System wohl etwas angeknackst ...

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SmartDVB 0.2.5 Final erschienen
« Antwort #33 am: 08 April, 2012, 19:07 »
okay then guys, even if by now it almost seems impossible for me to relax outdoors (lol) i've gone ahead and decided to release this stuff, thanks again for all your help, can't you find me some relaxing country-side place to stay there or something :-)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/51980102/SmartDVB025Release.rar

also downloadable on the main smartdvb.net site ofcourse

regards and thanks, this has been the longest test-run so far for a release i ever had, but also due to unforseen things, still, hope i can find peace of mind to actually make the osd etc i basically already wanted to have made, as it's already kind of worked out in my head, hope it's still there lol

best regards,
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Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 Final erschienen
« Antwort #34 am: 08 April, 2012, 19:30 »
Is there any difference to the version we got some days ago?
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Re; SmartDVB 0.2.5 Final erschienen
« Antwort #35 am: 08 April, 2012, 19:32 »
Many thx for this great piece of software :D

For all of you here is also the complete changelog for version 0.25:

Zitat
v0.2.5 Release
changed: small change to show signal also when not able to decode a channel.
fixed: starting udp streaming from the new tools menu option wasn't working correctly, also the menu
checkbox was not always updated correctly.
changed: TS recording is now default on new installations (as mpeg does not yet work correctly for ac3).
changed: some changes to shutdown code as some were having problems there it seems, untested yet as
for me it worked without hickups before already.
changed: mousewheel/middle mouse button now switches between floating and main when set in settings.
fixed: latitude for newly added satellite was wrongly set to DVB-S instead of the degree value due to recent
changes (and me not testing adding new sats ofcourse).
fixed: small fix when exiting app with recording on and cancelling the exit the video
would become unstable.
fixed: some fixes to the scheduling functionality. There was a crash when adding a schedule action from the epg's.
Also now the now event scheduling will try to change the starting time so the event actually runs (before
it wouldn't as the start time was in the past and the ms scheduler in such case ignores such an event.)
fixed: blindscanner would sometimes not pick up frequencies correctly at the end of the frequency range.
min/max sr processing was not working correctly in blindscanner.
Also some fix to try to also blindscan correctly at the end of a range (sometimes a last valid
frequency was missed it seems).
fixed: some fixes to no signal processing in scanner, let me know if you still encounter problems here.
fixed: gotosat functionality in add frequencies dialog in my case was not always operational,
hopefully fixed.
updated: blindscanner strings moved to resources to make translations possible (and other recently added
strings, let me know if you're still missing something during translations).
fixed: Some fixes to the sync dialog. Some fecs were being wrongly imported in the sync dialog
(91 to smart should be 910) and modulation changes are now also reflected in color changes.
fixed: Numeric keypad should now work again on keyboard input selection (hard to find little bug).
fixed: more udp fixes as in some cases buffer overruns could be wrongly generated due to misconfiguration.
changed: setup filter.ini updated to reflect current codec use better (LAV/MS DTV etc).
changed: updated crazycat streamreader.dll installed to latest one.
fixed: some more fixes to no-signal processing.
fixed: some fixes to switch handling in blindscanner (thanks to moonchild once again for testing this).
updated: transponder lists updated (sats only).
updated: small changes to old bdas.dev stream processing (analog to my recent changes in bda.dev) should make
this also more stable with stream, but still use bda.dev for now (in future i might revise and update bdas.dev
as this module probably will work better for things like multiple devices, more modular built).
Also the smartdump.ax filter used by this was not correctly rebuilt
before (still used some older directshow sdk, so maybe this was the reason bdas.dev didn't work
that well for some).
fixed: handling of bandstacked lnb's (dbs/fss) as polarization was not always set correctly here (untested).
fixed: small fix which might affect application stability when tuning lots of no-signal or bad signal
channels in one go.
fixed: small fix in channel processing which could result in some wrongly lost channels.
fixed: various small fixes in install process (in some cases if things didn't go the default way let's say
smart needed to be restarted for the video to work correctly (eg. when failing to start the initial
device and needing to select another one).
fixed: some changes to bandstacked dishpro handling which were not working correctly (untested yet).
fixed: some little timing changes to bda.dev (for better stability hopefully).
fixed: atsc was broken due to recent clear-qam support changes (clear-qam still untested, atsc should
work again).
fixed: more changes to band-stacked lnb handling in bda.dev and blindscan.dev.
fixed: some changes after rebuild long recordings failed after some hours in the taskbar, oddly enough
i'm sure this didn't happen before the new system rebuild with the same compiler (so there
are subtle differences even if the same settings, i'll have to test this some more i'm
afraid).
fixed: some changes to bda.dev concerning clear-qam (atsc digital cable) handling as this wasn't
working yet (tuning space addition/changes, untested).
fixed: some more bugfixes and fixes to blindscan.dev among others again concerning band-stacked lnb's.
fixed: bug in bda.dev which would show zero level in some situations while there actually was level
detected.
fixed: still video filter wasn't working with audio channels.Seems to work again, not tested much.
added: alternative signal detection to bda.dev (under device settings).
fixed: some window showing problems when moving from floating to main etc under certain conditions the main
window would be hidden instead of shown.
fixed: usals changes were not enabling apply button.
changed: updated american transponder list files (thanks to ger).

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Re: SmartDVB 0.2.5 Final erschienen
« Antwort #36 am: 02 Juli, 2012, 18:27 »
I've tested only some of the features. My first impression: excellent work  :jo

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SmartDVB 0.3.0 Final erschienen
« Antwort #37 am: 26 April, 2013, 19:47 »
just letting eveyone here know i've bit the bullet for the release which been long overdue (somewhat delayed due to some provider issues because the bandwith limit i had at the previous provider had been exceeded, so i've been forced to spend quite some time with that, no  major additions ofcourse for the release compared to previous rc/pre-release tst)..

SmartDVB 0.3.0 Release

once more lots of tx to the people here who were a major part of this release at times when things got tough for me where i live here..
best regard and onto more!
JackJavo!!!!!!!  ;muah :jb

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Re: SmartDVB 0.3.0 Final erschienen
« Antwort #38 am: 26 April, 2013, 20:20 »
yeah ... great work  :laola

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Re: SmartDVB 0.3.0 Final erschienen
« Antwort #39 am: 26 April, 2013, 23:17 »
Many Thanks, JackJavo, for your excellent work! :jo
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Re: SmartDVB 0.3.0 Final erschienen
« Antwort #40 am: 26 April, 2013, 23:28 »
Thank you very much! You are doing a really great job! SmartDVB is a milestone in DVB-Software and I don't give a d*mn for the other ones - your's is the best!
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Re: SmartDVB 0.3.0 Final erschienen
« Antwort #41 am: 27 April, 2013, 03:20 »
Well done.
Thanks a lot!
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Re: SmartDVB 0.3.0 Final erschienen
« Antwort #42 am: 27 April, 2013, 13:47 »
tx once more. It's nice to see ones dreams or hopes one had for such a software seem to get realised (ofcourse it's a long road to reach a point where one feels the software is maturing like one might have imagined when one started such a project). I have to be honest, without the support from here i doubt it might even exist at this moment, everyone needs some positive affirmation about their work, themselves etc, especially when you realise your social surroundings might be doing the exact opposite by only affirming the negative around you on purpose, it's quite odd this society here for some. I'm just happy i realise this now, i'm quite sure this SmartDVB versions kicks their *sses more then they ever imagined possible by someone who they dare, without a second thought i'm sure, give such treatment (just to make sure, i'm not talking about this board).
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Re: SmartDVB 0.3.0 Final erschienen
« Antwort #43 am: 25 Juni, 2013, 20:16 »
Hi Jack,

When everything runs smooth the reactions become rare. That's maybe the fate of every good software. I don't know if you were informed about, one of the most prestigious german
computer magazines (in my eyes the most serious one) "c't" has included in it's latest "software collection" (a CD delivered with the magazine) your "SmartDVB"! In Germany we would say
this is a "Ritterschlag" for a free soft developper! Congratulations for that combined with my reassurance that viaccess CAMs now run without any frickle  :)

Hope to hear from you sometimes when you finally got rid of the stress developping your wonderful child!

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Re: SmartDVB 0.3.0 Final erschienen
« Antwort #44 am: 26 Juni, 2013, 13:59 »
Hi Ritschibie,

Tx, yes indeed that's how it is, when stuff operates smooth people just use it. Until now i never really put the effort there to get the app to next level (more busy to get the core dvb stuff there). Hehe, yes, such a program somewhere turns into a 'child' in more senses of the word then one might imagine, you nurture it, try to mold it, it occupies your mind, you worry about it but you're also happy about it, and ofcourse you hope it grows up to be a well behaved child, showing the signs and qualities you hope it would have when it matures.

You're right about the stress, i'm taking the much needed break now ofcourse, also from the programming, but don't think i won't be here once more when the temperature lowers. I hope everyone here's still motivated for some future tsts? SmartDVB's still needs to grow a little bit more.

I know about c't, they requested some data from me a while back. It indeed also to me is the best magazine at the world. I remember reading the german c't long time ago (more then 20+ years, must've been a teen). At that time the tech articles there were just wonderful for me, i guess it's the 'deutsche grundlichkeit' at action :). So i'm excillerated that the best computer magazine at the world of all talks about SmartDVB, it's like a dream gets reality :). If you compare the dutch magazines with c't you would just trhow them out of the house (no pun intended).

Best regards to everyone here ofcourse who aided me, but like mentioned if it's my perogative more's still there (i won't mention more about what occurs here at the netherlands, other then that now i know it's something called 'psychological harrasment' or mobbing, something that's more known to occur at workplaces but which should not be done by government ofcourse (google it).

JackJavo